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    5 Minutes article...

    http://www.promotionbase.com/article/617

    This isn't getting a good ranking but I just thought I'd say that the advice is correct.

    The article as a whole isn't very informative and is rather on the short side, and that whole bit on SSI is off topic. However, the advice is correct and you should follow it.

    He also didn't mention that you should also use noscript tags if you have any javascript using navigation systems, because without those noscript tags the spiders won't be able to navigate your site.

    The bit on CSS was correct, but he didn't mention why it is a benefit, only that it is a benefit.

    The less crap in your source code the better, and font tags are crap (I'm being technical here). Search engines see your source code as a whole, and the less extraneous stuff there is the more weight the important stuff will get.

    Also with CSS you can make use of H tags. Some engines give priority to text found in H tags, so you should always use them for your headers. However they're not always pretty, so you can use CSS to make them more visually appealing.
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    Re: 5 Minutes article...

    Originally posted by aspen
    Also with CSS you can make use of H tags. Some engines give priority to text found in H tags, so you should always use them for your headers. However they're not always pretty, so you can use CSS to make them more visually appealing.
    Dont forget CSS wont help the way your site is viewed in old versions of netscape. The H tags are a real trade off. I personally can't justify using them since the little bit of extra traffic isnt worth making my site look like crap for netscape users.

    Just a thought

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    Netscape 4x+ will support text altering CSS that you'd use in this application, what it won't support is more advanced CSS or using the hover pseudo-class.

    Besides, in truth there is more people out there with javascript disabled than there are who use browsers that wouldn't support that rather rudimentary CSS. In either case its a very small percentage.
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    Another good point about the js.

    I tried setting up a style sheet for fonts on my site and it worked for every browser but the old netscape....if what you said is true why didn't it work?

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    perhaps you set them up wrong.
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    aspen, I thought the same thing: Good article for what it's for (and commented as such).
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    If that were true it wouldnt have worked in IE or the new netscape. Plus I used the standard code from the w3 site.

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    IE is more forgiving than netscape and will support incorrect syntax in some cases.

    For example with IE you can get away with things like not closing table tags, but try that in netscape and the page won't display.
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    Oh I know that. But it wasn't table tags we were talking about it was a font style tag, and they were right of the w3 site.

    By the way not closing the table tag won't stop the whole page displaying only the html/content that comes after that table.

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    Either way, I've done what I told you to do with H1 tags and it works fine in netscape. If you can't get simple CSS that changes basic font properties to work then you must be doing something wrong.
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    It seems like quite a bit of work to put all that code in .js files, especially if you use a lot of javascript and have a large site. Is it really worth the bother??

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    I deffinately am doing something wrong. Cause when I tried to do it before it worked in every browser but netscape 4.7

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    Originally posted by guysmy
    It seems like quite a bit of work to put all that code in .js files, especially if you use a lot of javascript and have a large site. Is it really worth the bother??
    Yes... its also easier to manage the code that way.

    Make a single javascript file, put all your js functions in there, and include it remotely. Its not as much work as you think, and it will definitely help.

    Another reason why is some engines may only read the first xxx characters on your page. So if you have a bunch of javascript at the top then it'll read all of your javascript and maybe only half your content.
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    Originally posted by 321web
    I deffinately am doing something wrong. Cause when I tried to do it before it worked in every browser but netscape 4.7
    if it helps here is the CSS I use to edit my H tags:

    Code:
    .big {text-decoration: none; color: 7A3F0F; font-family: arial; font-size: 16pt;}
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