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    I have noticed this so many times now that I have to bring it up. In the past I have made the mistake of thinking "why is x person consistantly spelling x word wrong?", only to find it was the correct regional spelling of the word. You know, things like colour (proper spelling)/color (lazy bugger spelling) etc...

    However, I really am perplexed by this one. MANY people on these forums seem to spell than then. I have more work to do THAN you. Oh, your workload is heavier THEN? Would be the UK English spellings - is it diefferiant elswhere?

    I'm worried that sitepoint is spawning a whole generation of dodgy spelling......
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    That's sort of using the words in a different manner. I've noticed that too, some people from other countries tend to use "then" rather than "than" in sentences such as:

    "I am taller then you." "This is a better offer then ever before."

    It's certainly not SitePoint's fault People will use words incorrectly depending on the way in which they were educated.

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    Aside, I've noticed that some people tend to say the expression "I couldn't care less" as "I could care less", referring to something which they do not care about. "I could care less" doesn't make sense. I assume they've just began to leave off the "n't" through laziness, after years of saying it.
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    oooh - I just hate that one. I could care less means just that - that you could care less (therefore you care at least a little). If you could not care less, then say so!!!!!
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    Well as a major member of sitepoint's 'dodgy spelling society', I propose that we all conform to 'Australian spelling of words and any word not abrevieted must be stared out like swearwords... ok?

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    <----- begins staring out swearwords........

    they're not budging mate
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    smartarse.... i just had to spell a word wrongish didn't I

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    I love the English language - because it is so laissez faire (which is a French term - oh the irony). Further, there are many different dialects spoken as well as different official versions of the language (US English, UK English, Australian English, etc). Among dialects you have Singlish (Singaporean English - and the Malaysians speak a similar type of English too), to the more extreme pigin dialects spoken in the south-west pacific.

    I also like the way that English is used as a second language internationally such as on these forums, and the fact that even though people often mangle up the grammer, tense, spelling, etc - generally the language works in getting communication accross.

    The French language is officially guarded and regulated by a French bureaucracy. This is simply impossible to do with English. It's a free language. It's also an elastic language that can easily absorb new words, without having to assign nouns a gender, and where nouns can become verbs, adjectives or adverbs.

    But I must admit - I'm just a bad speller.

    PS: On MMJ's point about "Couldn't care less". It's a double negative. Double negatives are used far more frequently in Australian language than others. It's part of the understated, self-depricating, laconic sarcasm (and perhaps pessimism) with which Australian's often express themselves. While most other nations say "You're welcome" an Australian will express the same concept by suggesting an absense of negatives "No worries". When others are asked how they are they will likely reply "well thankyou, and how are you", whereas an Australian will reply "Can't complain - no body listens". Another example, "Can you do that for me" will get the response "sure I can" from most people but from an Australian "not a problem". Again double negative.
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    im the worstest speler hare... but thats 1 thing i luv bout PiteSoint, nbody car if i spell god or bed

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    Just about all the double negatives you mentioned there sid are part of the UK English lexicon. Some as matters of history (couldn't care less - I'm sure I could find some decent literary examples) and some from Mr Grundy and his ilk (No Worries and the like).

    The terms used are really quite disturbingly similar. I think "Prisoner" was a deliberate ploy to make us think our Aussie cousins were more diferrent than they actually are.......

    (So where does the whinging (sp? - doh!) pom come from? You can't all have met my neighbours!.....)
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    Yes, I guess you have a point H. The differences in the English language and its usage are greater accross the Atlantic than it is with us Atipodes.

    BTW - who is Mr Grundy? Do you mean Reg Grundy, the producer of Aussie soap operas?

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    I absolutely do, the flamin' mongrel.......
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    Re: Spelling

    Originally posted by TheOriginalH
    I have noticed this so many times now that I have to bring it up. In the past I have made the mistake of thinking "why is x person consistantly spelling x word wrong?", only to find it was the correct regional spelling of the word. You know, things like colour (proper spelling)/color (lazy bugger spelling) etc...

    However, I really am perplexed by this one. MANY people on these forums seem to spell than then. I have more work to do THAN you. Oh, your workload is heavier THEN? Would be the UK English spellings - is it diefferiant elswhere?

    I'm worried that sitepoint is spawning a whole generation of dodgy spelling......
    I can't help it, I'm dyslexic, or, I guess, more appropriately, disgraphic! BTW, the English language has one of the highest (if not the highest) rates of dyslexia/disgraphia simply because the written word is, in many cases, substantially different than the spoken word. I've actually resorted to proofing what I write in Word. That's also the reason that different characters appear on some of my posts. For instance: Word uses true “quotation marks” instead of the simple "double prime" that were all use to on our keyboard…(and true ellipsis)

    IMHO, I think that all the abbr that ppl use on forums stink!
    Last edited by Ian Glass; Nov 20, 2001 at 08:21.

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    2 lazy to read that post!
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    BTW, the English language has one of the highest (if not the highest) rates of dyslexia/disgraphia simply because the written word is, in many cases, substantially different than the spoken word. I've actually resorted to proofing what I write in Word. That's also the reason that different characters appear
    Didn't know that. Makes sense though I suppose. Combine that with regional pronunciations and things sound radically different from the way they are spelt (or is it spelled?).

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    A bit off the topic.

    What, would you guess, is the number one misspelled (english) word on resumes.

    After years of reading thousands of resumes, I can say with certainty that I know what that word is.

    Anyone venture a guess?

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    Proceedure?
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    That's not it.

    I will give you some hints. It's not technical jargon.

    It is an ordinary word used in a lot of resumes. There are two correct spellings of the same word. The words sound alike but are spelled differently according to usage. Example: lie, lye. The mistake comes in using the wrong spelling of the word in a sentence.
    Last edited by allie; Nov 20, 2001 at 10:09.

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    I'm guessing that the word is resumes, now where's that acute accent got to? Pesky French inflections!

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    That's not it.

    I edited my post above to add another hint.

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    There Their they're ?
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    That's not it.

    Hint: It's a commonly used verb in a sentence that describes a task, project, or job.

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    Big hint!

    Three words.

    Two are four letter words which are spelled alike but have different meanings and pronounciations.

    One is a three letter word and is pronounced exactly like one of the four letter words referenced above.

    It is one of the four letter words that is most often used mistakenly instead of the three letter word which is correct.
    Last edited by allie; Nov 20, 2001 at 11:00.

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    Okay, more hints.

    The three letter word is pronounced exactly like one of the four letter words but the two words have totally different meanings.

    The other four letter word used correctly is the present tense of the three letter word which used correctly is past tense.

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