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    taking the plunge

    Hmm... Aright, I've never been to these forums before...

    I'll give you three guesses why I'm here:

    1. I need to mow the lawn and need a productive reason to get out of it
    2. I'm gay and need something to distract myself from those tight pants the guys where on ESPN
    3. I wanna learn asp

    If you guessed any of the above, go take a shower then see a shrink. I'm an ASP'er already, but I've decided to come see the competition. I already know PHP is fast, I already know JS and C-based syntax isn't a problem...

    Okay, as far as I can tell I need a webserver dropped onto my machine here.

    I'm running win2k pro here at work (which is where I'll be developing). For databases I'll be using SQL Server 7 or MySQL... Actually, why not go the whole 12 yards and learn MySQL as well, it's been staring me in the face for too long.

    Aright... So, webserver, a copy of MySQL and the PHP manual from php.net... Where do I find a webserver and which one is good?
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    huh?? you confuse me, boy...
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    You're about as helpful as a rash on sunday

    What do I need? MySQL? Which version? I'm looking at 4.23.42 (mysql-win) right now. Should I download this?

    (http://sourceforge.net/project/showf...lease_id=53332)

    Where do I get a PHP-enabled web server for my machine in front of me... Which one (oHTTPd?)?

    Give me what I need
    What I really really need
    I wanna code, I wanna code, I wanna really jiggy really jiggy flippy wanna code

    If you wanna be my coder
    First you gotta gimee the juice
    If you wanna teach me PHP
    First I need that juice

    ...

    Okay, so I can't write, aright?!

    edit: I've grabbed this: mysql-3.23.42-win.zip version of MySQL over mysql-max-3.23.42-win.zip...
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    http://www.omnihttpd.ca. They should do. I don't think Apache runs a free Win version, but if they do, grab it instead. http://www.apache.org

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    Re: taking the plunge

    Originally posted by Jeremy W.
    Hmm... Aright, I've never been to these forums before...

    I'll give you three guesses why I'm here:

    1. I need to mow the lawn and need a productive reason to get out of it
    2. I'm gay and need something to distract myself from those tight pants the guys where on ESPN
    3. I wanna learn asp

    If you guessed any of the above, go take a shower then see a shrink.
    Hmmm, too bad, almost thought I finally found a soul-mate

    But on to your questions. Well, in your case you prolly already have IIS and SQL Server 7 installed (and are used to working with those), I would just go with those and add the php-environment to it.

    If you really want to go the whole nine yards, for a webserver get Apache from www.apache.org or even easier download phpdev4 or phptriad (those two are a combined installation of Apache/PHP/MySQL plus some extras).

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    No free apache for windows, I'll try and grab oHTTPd then... erm... omnihttpd.ca is down?
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    Apache is free on all platforms

    Hell, what is this, a chatroom?

    Apache, PHP, MySQL, PHPDev4, PHPTRIAD are all free on any platform they are available on.

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    Okay... So phpdev4 or phptriad... Where would I get those? I've already downloaded and the php manual, mysql, and am looking for ohttpd at the moment...

    I can't seem to find it (omnihttpd.ca is down).

    Hmm...

    Going for phpdev4 then I suppose, until I hear otherwise
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    Originally posted by Jeremy W.
    No free apache for windows, I'll try and grab oHTTPd then... erm... omnihttpd.ca is down?
    lol...bad omen
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    Originally posted by Sketch

    lol...bad omen
    Yeah, thanx, you are sooo helpful
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    Ach, it's aright, I've already got 60% of that phpdev4, if that's just as good...
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    Originally posted by Jeremy W.
    Okay... So phpdev4 or phptriad... Where would I get those? I've already downloaded and the php manual, mysql, and am looking for ohttpd at the moment...

    I can't seem to find it (omnihttpd.ca is down).

    Hmm...

    Going for phpdev4 then I suppose, until I hear otherwise
    Hey, aren't you a mentor on these here forums. And could that not imply you know how to use the search function. In other posts the links for phpdev4 or phptriad are given and ofcourse there are always things like www.google.com

    Trying not to be sarcastic, but finding it very hard to keep up

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    SitePoint Wizard silver trophy Jeremy W.'s Avatar
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    Found it? It's already downloaded

    As I'm sure you know, when products are popular it can be hard to actually find the company's site, especially when it isn't a big one.

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    not to mention that Open Source stuff is mirrored across the world and smoetimes that makes things overly-comploicated to actually find what you actually need.

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    Aright, so, everything downloaded, phpdev4 unzipped to it's proper directory, readme's read, licenses read (just in case)...

    I'm assuming my next step is phpdev_start?

    ...

    Yes, I'm new, and yes I'm scared to toast my system even if everything is ghosted nightly.
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    good guess
    and keep those ghost images close at hand

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    F****

    Been quiet for an awful long time, prolly looking for the ghost images.....

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    Ach, just reading documentation like most people don't.

    Aright, sitting here, installed and started phpdev4. PHP is running fine, webserver is running fine, perl is running fine, MySQL isn't...

    Code:
    Warning: Can't connect to MySQL server on 'localhost' (10061) in c:\phpdev\www\phpmyadmin\lib.inc.php on line 308
    
    Warning: MySQL Connection Failed: Can't connect to MySQL server on 'localhost' (10061) in c:\phpdev\www\phpmyadmin\lib.inc.php on line 308
    Error 
    MySQL said: Can't connect to MySQL server on 'localhost' (10061)
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    whoa...never mind... webserver no longer running...
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    hmmm, MySQL deamon prolly not started.
    Can't recall exact command but it is somewhere in the docs and looks a bit like mysql_d.exe -nt --install

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    Originally posted by Jeremy W.
    Ach, just reading documentation like most people don't.
    Good man. as the Linux geeks always say...RTFM.

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    Yeah, so... I'm completely lost now...

    Webserver was working, now isn't... Isn't much in the /mysql/ directory (though it says there should be)... /mysqlfront/ is empty...

    -console doesn't work, there is no mysql*.exe besides shutdown...
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    aright, I've wiggled my way around a bit (documentation is useless) and found the following:



    The docs say I should be running mysqld-nt.exe ... Tried the --install and --console, and neither worked (failed to install service, too many parameters, respectively).

    Now what?
    Last edited by Jeremy W.; Nov 13, 2001 at 09:25.
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    Originally posted by Jeremy W.
    Yeah, so... I'm completely lost now...

    Webserver was working, now isn't... Isn't much in the /mysql/ directory (though it says there should be)... /mysqlfront/ is empty...

    -console doesn't work, there is no mysql*.exe besides shutdown...
    Hmmmm, sounds like the installation made a boo boo.
    Did you install any of the other things you downloaded before you installed phpdev4? This is know to have a somewhat unbdesirable effect.

    Seeing as it is MS, best thing to do is get your ghost image of yesterday evening, reload that one and then just start the installation of phpdev4 (no other separate packages of MySQL, PHP, and such....).


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