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    Hidden text bad?

    One of my sites has a game built into it, and thus nothing can be seen behind the games page without being logged in. What I want to do is put a div with a description of the game in it, but make the the div very small and set the overflow to hidden. This way there is something on the site for the search engine to read that relates to the site, but doesn't take up a lot of space and look weird to visitors. Is this bad?

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    Yes. If the user is never going to see the text, then the SE is seeing differently to the user. This is spam, and if reported will lead to a ban.
    Why not just have a description of the game underneath that both users and SEs can see?
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    Yes. That is very bad and a great way to get banned from the search engines.

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    I just didn't want three paragraphs of text on the page, but then there's nothing on the page for the search engine to see. What if I put a link that expanded the div for people to see if they wanted to. Would that be ok?

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    That would be fine.

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    I think the title should read:

    Hidden Text Bad.

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    Yes indeed. Hidden text might leave you severely penalized

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    hidden text is bad definately. But what if I use a a plain picture in background. Search engines won't be able to read color of the pic. and then write text in color of the pic.

    .......just a thought

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    deep_3657, there is a flaw in your logic.

    hidden text = bad
    text color being the same as background color = hidden text
    therefore, text color being the same as background color = bad ...QED

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    Quote Originally Posted by hooperman
    deep_3657, there is a flaw in your logic.

    hidden text = bad
    text color being the same as background color = hidden text
    therefore, text color being the same as background color = bad ...QED
    but....i do not get you
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    is it not correct that one won't be able to read the text if text color is same as background color unless it is selected.

    and web spiders use programs use check if text color is same as background one. Such automated programs won't be reading color of the pic. (i dont expect search engines makes such bans manually and are by use of automated programs)

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    Being able to escape detection with this trick does not make it good. Text that is the same colour as the background image is hidden even though you didn't use visibility: hidden, and by your reasoning, is bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deep_3657
    but....i do not get you
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    is it not correct that one won't be able to read the text if text color is same as background color unless it is selected.

    and web spiders use programs use check if text color is same as background one. Such automated programs won't be reading color of the pic. (i dont expect search engines makes such bans manually and are by use of automated programs)
    It's not the technique that is bad, it's the intention. Hiding text for the sake of improving your rankings, no matter how you do it, it against the TOS of the search engines and will get you banned every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deep_3657
    but....i do not get you
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    is it not correct that one won't be able to read the text if text color is same as background color unless it is selected.

    and web spiders use programs use check if text color is same as background one. Such automated programs won't be reading color of the pic. (i dont expect search engines makes such bans manually and are by use of automated programs)
    You're right, but a competitor may very well browse your site manually and detect it. And if I detected a competitor using bannable tactics, you can bet your house I would report it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigalreturns
    ...you can bet your house I would report it.


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