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    Serial Publisher silver trophy aspen's Avatar
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    Datacenter Provider/Software

    I had a very good meeting today. It things pan out it will generate a few hundred clients instantly and well we figure that if that happens we should start our own hosting company instead of reselling others.

    So I'm looking into providers.

    I've checked out Alabanza.. I don't like what they offer as far as packages etc, plus their setup fees are atrocious.

    I've also checked out VDI. Their packages are better but I'm a bit put off by their reputation, the fact that one of my sites was down as a result of their problems, and that their website isn't the best.


    I'm looking for a sorta turnkey solution for colocation. I send them the server, they hook it up and install the contol panel stuff, and I can run it.

    I really like the cpanel/webhostmanager software you get with VDI too.

    I don't want to lease a server or buy it from the company simply because

    1. I know I can build it cheaper

    2. I've never built a linux system so it'll be a learning experience.

    Also I'm assuming that I'll need to use a rackmount case for it correct?

    Any advice would be appreciated.
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    Re: Datacenter Provider/Software

    Originally posted by aspen
    I don't want to lease a server or buy it from the company simply because

    1. I know I can build it cheaper

    2. I've never built a linux system so it'll be a learning experience.
    IMHO if you are going to charge money for hosting, your customers would expect that their sites are hosted on a professionally set up server, not a penny-pinching, learning exercise.

    I suggest you keep reselling until you are ready to offer a professional service.
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    I've built about 7 or 8 PCs thank you. I know how to get parts wholesale, they're the same parts, got the same warranties, just wholesale instead of retail.

    I've used linux/unix systems for about 7 years now too, I've just never built one.

    I've taken classes on network security, I know how to administer apache, so you know I think I can handle it.
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    Originally posted by aspen I've built about 7 or 8 PCs thank you. I know how to get parts wholesale, they're the same parts, got the same warranties, just wholesale instead of retail.

    I've used linux/unix systems for about 7 years now too, I've just never built one.

    I've taken classes on network security, I know how to administer apache, so you know I think I can handle it.
    Good for you, best of luck.
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    Serial Publisher silver trophy aspen's Avatar
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    so does anyone have any useful advice?
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    Hi,

    You will of course need a rackmount case, you will also need a motherboard tailored to rackmount cases if you are going to use a 1U case - preferably with angled DIMM slots (If 1U) or you will have to pay the expense of low profile DIMMs.

    If you are going to go for a control panel I recommend H-Sphere by Positive Software (www.PSoft.net) as it is far superior to CPanel/WHM.

    As for a provider I can highly recommend DataColo run by the same people as Wizards Hosting - they are top notch people that go out of their way to look after you. They may not be doing $1 a Gb on bandwidth but there is a good reason - a very very good network, fully Cisco powered, firewalled as well.

    If you do need to buy any of the hardware from elsewhere I cannot recommend Acme Micro (www.AcmeMicro.com) highly enough, they are another company that go out of their way for you. They spent two days testing raid cards and memory modules for us for compatability in our newest server from them.

    If you want to chat about anything I have all the usual ICQ, MSN, Yahoo messengers.
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    I would also recommend H-Sphere but for co-locating I would recommend Nac.net because they have a super fast NOC. As usual they are bit expensive but each penny is worth it.


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    Come on Karl why don't you show off your wonderful new server so that Chris has an idea of what he should be providing?

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    Originally posted by Nicky
    Come on Karl why don't you show off your wonderful new server so that Chris has an idea of what he should be providing?
    You know me Nicky, I'm not one to show off But seen as you asked, www.storm.uk.co/sysinfo/ - Aspen, i'd be quite surprised if you could build it and ship it for cheaper than Acme Micro do, they are seriously top notch people.
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    Well... here are some prices:

    $23 PC133 512MB

    $92 Athlon 1.33GHz 266 FSB


    $139 EIDE 80.0GB
    $399 SCSI 73.4GB

    The biggest markup is usually on the processors and ram. If I could get a barebones without those parts I'd be set.
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    SitePoint Wizard silver trophy Karl's Avatar
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    Hi,

    Chris, I've just sent (PM) you an email of our sales rep at Acme, if you tell them what you want they will do you a quote and email it to you, we had about 20 different quote in 2 day from them for our latest server as we kept changing things etc.
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