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    Does Windows XP mean more control for MS ?

    Hi everyone I'm trying to start a mass-debate (excuse the pun) here, but has anyone noticed that since the first Microsoft OS released, we've been gradually moved away from DOS, until it is hidden in the background somewhere...95 had DOS in the start menu, so did 98, ME has it in the Windows dir (not in the start menu), and on XP...well, need I say more...It seems like Microsoft doesn't want anyone being in DOS anymore, purely because in DOS you're free to do what you want, whereas in the Windows GUI, you click a button it goes to that location etc. DOS has no limits.

    MS has more control in other ways too now that XP has been released, they can get any info from you that they want.

    It just seems to me, that having looked and used all the GUI's that MS has ever released, that they are wanting to shape the future, lead us down a path which lines bill gates's pocket, (they'll probably be watching me write this).

    Who remembers the good old day of the Amiga's Workbench, 3.1 MB in total, and yet it could multi-task 4 years ahead of any Microsoft OS, and it had a nice GUI. Apple Mac's aswell, I mean come on! there using bl**dy 450mhz processors and the performance of the games still rip on any PC. And it all comes down to two things, a faulty OS, and secondly the base memory (which I won't go into). It's like building a house with faulty foundations.

    And the irony of it all is, we all use it, I'm using a Microsoft OS now, 98 SE with Internet Explorer.

    I would like peoples thoughts on this...NOW THAT I'VE GOT EVERYONE REALLY FRUSTRATED I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS IS NOT ENTIRELY MY OPINION I DO LIKE MS, COS LETS FACE IT, IF YOU DON'T USE MS YOUR SCREWED.

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    Put your PC in a bin and
    BURN IT

    Then go and buy a mac
    (Sorry if that sounds rude
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    well, don';t burn it. Instead send it to Aaron's recycling center at

    7035 Eden Mill Rd
    Woo.....

    ah,nevermind.

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    re:

    That's funny...people getting frustrated about MS, since WHEN? Personally, I don't get frustrated with these things because, simply, USA is all about money and Bill surely is a typical American. But before people start attacking him, they should check how much money he donates to charities.

    I was also a proud owner of Amiga 500 and that was the best computer ever made. Too bad Commodore is out of business...they did some magic!

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    I think your right, but not for the reasons you stated.

    DOS was nice, but it was buggy. Anything built around DOS was buggy (95/98/ME) NT/2k/XP are more stable becuase they do not run over DOS, like the others.

    Yes, MS is slowing trying to completely take over the computer/internet world. Its happening slowly, it certainly won't happen overnight. Its like the boiling frog analogy: If you place a frog in a pot of boiling water, he will jump out. However, put him in a pot of cold water, and slowly turn up the heat, you will soon have frog legs for dinner

    Passport/.net/hailstorm or .net my services/XP and the new registration..etc etc

    I read somewhere, in an opinion column, that MS windows is going to turn out to be like AOL is now. A service that you pay a monthly fee for. I think he is right, go ahead a laugh now, but we'll see Do your homework, read up on this stuff, then form your own opinion. I do not see how MS could be headed for anything else.

    Win2k is where it stops for me. I refuse to take part in assisting MS with its goal of monopoly and domination. As soon as Linux has figured out how to make trivial tasks trivial...I may switch. (oh and when they port Homesite )

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    Like I said :
    Burn
    And buy a mac before it's too late
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    Originally posted by Marek Bereza
    Like I said :
    Burn
    And buy a mac before it's too late
    or just keep using 98SE (it's not a bad OS at all, I know it could be better)

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    I'm sorry I didn't mean it really. It's not what computer you've got, or what tools you've got. That's just an excuse for a lack of creativity. I know thats completely off the topic but it's true, as far as web design goes.
    Notepad is a very powerful program when combined with MS paint.
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    I think everything that M$ does is moving them closer to their goal of world domination.

    (I'm not joking, either)

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    I know your not

    go to ****microsoft.com
    And get yourself an email account

    Send me an email

    It really works
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    Originally posted by moospot
    I think everything that M$ does is moving them closer to their goal of world domination.

    (I'm not joking, either)
    and you are right. MS's next step : internet (just see what they have done with XP, IE 6, MSN, etc)

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    What are you talking aboout?


    Windows XP is the future.... I've been waiting all my life. Didn't you hear that you can update the clock through the internet?? WOW!!! bye bye linux

    jajajaj

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    Macs = way too proprietary = peices of junk
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    Re: What are you talking aboout?

    Originally posted by Dieguito

    Windows XP is the future.... I've been waiting all my life. Didn't you hear that you can update the clock through the internet?? WOW!!! bye bye linux

    jajajaj
    I certainly hope you are joking.

    Of what real use is the whole clock internet thing? Besides, its just one more way for hackers to enter your system. It will be even easier now since MS did away with winsock in favor of raw sockets. So go ahead, run XP, and cross your fingers that your quicken data doesn't get lifted, or your machine isn't used in a DDOS attack.
    --There's my 1.5 cents, now where is my change!?!?

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    I think you can shut up about the mac thing

    The reason macs are so good in terms of OS is that they make the hardware AND the OS so its going to work so much better together if they know what's going on

    If I could ask old Bill Gates some questions about XP they would be

    1. Where did you get the inspiration to make a new OS?
    2. Where did you get the inspiration to put an X in the title?
    3. What four letter word inspired you to call your new colour sheme "Luna"?
    4. Why can't you give up ripping off mac ideas and make a revolutionary OS (like Cesium at MIT)?

    I know the answer to 4. Microsoft are too crap to do something like that
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    And the answer to 2. Windows XP (eXtra Proprietary)
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    Originally posted by Marek Bereza
    I think you can shut up about the mac thing

    The reason macs are so good in terms of OS is that they make the hardware AND the OS so its going to work so much better together if they know what's going on

    The actual OS in OS X is an open source project, then aqua is dropped on top.

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    The OS still had to be sorted out to be native, and that's the thing it's very native thats what i meant.
    Now "Aqua", would that be the solution to number 3?
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    I think i'll just stick with Windows 2000. I don't like a lot of the features added in XP, I saw buttons to purchase, license and subscribe and I don't want an OS for that. I have a growing interest in purchasing a Mac, but 10 years of using DOS/Windows makes it hard to seperate from it. Linux has potential, but I can't be productive with it in for any Graphic work. That takes a fair share of fun out of it.
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    Yeah I have to use Windoze 2000 at work and I suppose it's not so bad, but I would kill to get my hands on a nice titanium Powerbook
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    I am proud to announce that I now have Mandrake Linux on my box!

    The only reason I need windows now is to play games and use quicken, wait....thats all i do with it anyway

    LOL

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    moospot, I got Mandrake too since five days ! Well I should have ordered a 8.1 version, since I'm using an old GPL 8.0 version that I'm upgrading like crazy. ./configure , make , make install , makes my day way more than running any setup.exe

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    I'm lucky to have a T1 and a CD-R drive

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    Originally posted by Seer
    I think i'll just stick with Windows 2000.


    I saw buttons to purchase, license and subscribe and I don't want an OS for that.
    Good call. Before too long, all those people upgrading to XP are going to loose the purchase/license options, and will end up paying a monthly fee to use Windows..
    --There's my 1.5 cents, now where is my change!?!?

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    Of course Windows is trying to gain more control over our user experience, but this is totally understandable. Imagine if you were Bill Gates- he is just a typical businessman trying to make a dollar. In my opinion I see nothing wrong with that. There is no conspiracy behind it all- its just business. Microsoft is going to try to dominate every market it can to make a bigger profit.
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