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    When getting in touch seems impossible

    I've tried forming numerous partnerships with sites I feel have quality and prestige and would be worthwhile partners for my site in my continual efforts to increase traffic and brand awareness. However, my problem too often has been lack of response from the site owners or no response at all. I have followed everything as smoothly as possible - I have acted professional, written personal, kind e-mails, and used good business principles in my e-mails to site owners.

    So what do you do? Am I alone in these woes? It seems frustrating when I already foresee so many ideas that can help both sites involved. Have you experienced this? It seems the few responses I have gotten have said that they are very busy and so forth, so I know that's a factor, but for everyone?

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    Marc, PM me a copy of what you send to people, and I will let you know if there is a problem in your approach.

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    I've faced the same response even when offering my product away free for a contest on their site. I don't know why people would turn this down? But I don't get any reply. But then again I sometimes find myself doing the same thing - we are mass marked via email and can only take so much!

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    I get a lot of so-called "business proposals" in my email box that are mass mailed to all kinds of web design companies. I think that we've been worn out by email partnerships

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    Well, I gotta say,
    a sports site without soccer is like a fish without water.

    Anyways,
    I run a sports related site, soccer, and have had no problem in making partners. On the contrary, I even have a system for this.

    Maybe that there's no such feeling of community between webmasters in your case.
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    Originally posted by Bucur David
    Well, I gotta say,
    a sports site without soccer is like a fish without water.

    Anyways,
    I run a sports related site, soccer, and have had no problem in making partners. On the contrary, I even have a system for this.

    Maybe that there's no such feeling of community between webmasters in your case.
    Well, I'm not just mass-mailing webmasters, they are all personal and self-addressed. To Bucur David, I wasn't asking for a critique of my site, but since you brought it up, things may be different over in Europe, but the site is aimed to people in North America; soccer is nothing compared to baseball, football, basketball, and hockey. And it's not that I particularly have trouble getting partners, it's just so many of them fail to respond.

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    Originally posted by Sparkie
    I get a lot of so-called "business proposals" in my email box that are mass mailed to all kinds of web design companies. I think that we've been worn out by email partnerships
    Sparkie, trust me, so do I. I get a handful of "partnership" proposals, but once you get halfway through reading them, you realize they are just some casino program trying to get you to signup with their affiliate program. So here is the burning question, how do you differentiate your legit proposals from the mass-mailed, impersonal ones? Besides the personal factor, of course.

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    Instead of laying open the options, find something they don't have. If they don't have a dynamically run site, try offering them one in exchange for traffic or what-have-you. Think of something that would be hard to turn down.

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    I send out a lot of the 'Business Proposal' type of emails myself. They're real proposals and usually involve referring clients to each others' companies, or include an in-depth proposal written out that outlines what they have to gain by working with us (which is sent to companies who I'm hoping to work out exclusive partnerships with.)

    However, since the 11th I've found that the response rate to my emails is way down. I've replaced most of my emailing with phone calls now and I find I'm getting much more accomplished in a half hour on the phone than I do writing and waiting for a ton of emails.

    So, if you can get a hold of a phone number, that's a big plus -- if you're comfortable with that.
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    I get 10 "partnership proposals" a day, I delete every last one. I'm sure I've missed out on some great opportunities by doing this, but my personal opinion is that "partnership proposals" sent through email aren't all that professional. I don't care what words or sweet smelling phrases you use, my 13 year old brother can do the same. I barely read his writings, why would I waste my time reading yours?

    How do I know that you're not just another punk spam artist? The fact is, I don't. As far as I know, there aren't any methods out there that can differentiate between the two. If you develop one, you'll be rich.

    How many lawyers send important documents strictly over email? How many business executives send "out of the blue" merger deals to other corporate companies? If Microsoft sent me a merger deal through email tomorrow, I can guarantee you that I would delete it without thinking twice.

    So why exactly are you trying to communicate professionally through a method such as email? Nobody takes email seriously! I sure don't.

    If you want something done, communicate like the "big shots". Alexander Graham Bell invented an excellent tool, use it! Sure you may get charged $5 for the long distance call, but you'll also end up with a potential new client.

    You're sending email, what about snail mail? Anthrax isn't stopping people from reading mail, it's just making them more cautious. People do still read mail you know.
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