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Thread: Zend Framework
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Mar 6, 2006, 08:12 #76
Originally Posted by Ren
Depends on how you define big though. Its just as capable as PHP of scaling to larger sites because it scales in exactly the same way, using share-nothing architecture. There is a large mortagage processing application written in RubyOnRails but the name escapes me (its in the Agile Rails book). We've also got some fairly large apps planned for a huge retail employment company in the UK.
Either way, I'm less concerned about how many "big sites" are using it, and more concerned about how productive and enjoyable development can be for me.
I have to agree on the Windows front though. I wouldn't ever recommend it as a platform for deploying Rails apps (though I wouldn't recommend it for deploying PHP apps either, not when you can deploy to a *nix platform) and its not the nicest development environment either - its not overly difficult to get up and running for development purposes though. Installing Ruby and RubyGems is a sinch using the one-click installer then installing Rails using gems is as easy as it is on *nix. I don't enjoy developing in Windows as much though, thats why I'm getting myself a MacBook Pro soon
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Mar 6, 2006, 08:14 #77
Originally Posted by Ren
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Mar 6, 2006, 08:17 #78
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Originally Posted by Ren
I don't see that as a problem.
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Mar 6, 2006, 08:22 #79
Originally Posted by Ezku
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Mar 6, 2006, 08:28 #80
In rails-1.0.0\rails\vendor\rails\actionpack\lib\action_controller\routing.rb there alot of strings containing ruby being assembled.
I was only curious as to how rails did it, as I was/is routing class for PHP based on ruby documentation ( http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/show...0&postcount=27 ) and was convinced rails must've used the same method.. compiling to regexps, as it was fairly simple to implement.
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Mar 6, 2006, 08:30 #81
Originally Posted by Ezku
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Mar 6, 2006, 08:34 #82
Originally Posted by Ren
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Mar 6, 2006, 08:36 #83
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I think this topic is going off the rails...
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Mar 6, 2006, 11:11 #84
Originally Posted by Ren
Going back on topic, I'm going to refrain from commenting on the code itself until I get a better chance to go through it, but I will say I applaud zend's decision to release what they had sooner rather than later.
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Mar 6, 2006, 13:17 #85
I wish they would have made it a little more well known when they were releasing it... It's about time though!
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Mar 6, 2006, 18:35 #86
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Originally Posted by 1PhpNut
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Mar 6, 2006, 19:01 #87
Originally Posted by shea
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Mar 7, 2006, 00:01 #88
Originally Posted by DerelictMan
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Mar 7, 2006, 01:43 #89
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I think this framework is sorely needed, and it seems to be very well thought-out. I look forward to digging around and having a decent look over the next few days.
I am quite disappointed that this has become a Rails thread. Much like evangelist Christians, Rails fanboys just cannot seem to enjoy their framework without trying to recruit everyone else. And I find the fact that both 37signals.com and rubyonrails.org are running PHP is classic. It's not unlike php.net running on IIS/ASP. Enough of that though...
I would like to particularly commend Chris Shiflett for being so vocal and open with the community up to this point. I certainly appreciate all the hard work you guys are putting into this. When can we expect the next release Chris?
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Mar 7, 2006, 03:25 #90
PHP-Architect just published a tutorial on using the ZF...
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Mar 7, 2006, 10:46 #91
Originally Posted by darsh
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Mar 7, 2006, 13:36 #92
Originally Posted by darsh
what do you all think of the data adapter and HttpClient classes?
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Mar 7, 2006, 13:57 #93
Originally Posted by darsh
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Mar 7, 2006, 14:22 #94
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Originally Posted by darsh
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Mar 8, 2006, 07:24 #95
http://framework.zend.com/
0.1.2 has just been released..
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Mar 8, 2006, 12:09 #96
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According to the project maintainers, the ZendFramework will be based upon PHP5.0* as the earliest version to run with. A bad decision in my eyes, since the SPL came up with nice features beginning from 5.1* on, and the "fixed bug"-list from PHP5.04 to 5.1 is quite long.
Heck, I can't even think of a big enough userbase running PHP5.0* and using ZF making this decision legitimate.
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Mar 8, 2006, 14:48 #97
Originally Posted by siteartwork
Don't see the 5.0 and 5.1 decision as being a major problem, if want to replace some part of ZF with something 5.1 specific, then you are free too.
I have noticed in using ZSearch that they do seem to allow bending of some rules, there are optional dependancies on pecl/bitset extension (thou looking at the pecl page for it, its maintained by Alexander Veremyev of Zend so), presumably to increase performance, and decrease memory usage.
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Mar 8, 2006, 16:06 #98
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> Don't see the 5.0 and 5.1 decision as being a major problem...
I think it's sensible that we support pre 5.1 but remember that at some point there may well be a BC issue, much like the BC wars with PHP4.x and PHP5.x;
There were many fatalities...
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Mar 8, 2006, 23:36 #99
Wow, the example in the php architect article is already out of date.. these guys work fast. There's an altered naming convention for the methods inheriting Zend_Controller_Action. Had a play with it in version 0.1.1, created some actions. Upgraded to 0.1.2 and bang, none of my actions work. Can't wait to see this settle into a stable release, I'm loving it so far.
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Mar 10, 2006, 17:17 #100
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Looks interesting
Can anybody explain what is the advantage with:
PHP Code:// $select is now a Zend_Db_Select_PdoMysql object
// SELECT *
// FROM round_table
// WHERE noble_title = "Sir"
// ORDER BY first_name
// LIMIT 10 OFFSET 20
//
// you can use an iterative style...
$select->from('round_table', '*');
$select->where('noble_title = ?', 'Sir');
$select->order('first_name');
$select->limit(10,20);
// ...or a "fluent" style:
$select->from('round_table', '*')
->where('noble_title = ?', 'Sir')
->order('first_name')
->limit(10,20);
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