ie7 public beta out! (awaiting dl link)

**lostseed** · Jan 31, 2006, 17:11

I WILL NEVER TAKE MY FOOT OFF THE FIRE FOXES TAIL, FIREFOX FOREVER HAHAHA

PS thunderbird u can come too

**jimspice** · Jan 31, 2006, 17:52

I'll stick with the Fox, too, but 7 seems to fix most of the famous css bugs like peekaboo and guillatine etc. Check out rendering at http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer.html.

Now it will just take a year to get out of beta and 2 or 3 more for a majority of users to update.

Spice

**joebert** · Jan 31, 2006, 18:11

Originally Posted by vgarcia

I think IE7 enables ClearType for itself by default. I'm not sure how to change it since I use ClearType all over Windows anyway

Tools > Internet Options > Advanced > [Multimedia section]-> "Use cleartype" checkbox.
Though it doesn't say it, you must restart Internet Explorer for the change to take effect.

**earther** · Jan 31, 2006, 18:15

According to a thread - IE6 and IE7 at the same time? - in the 'official' IE 7 news group, installing IE 7 makes IE 6 go bye-bye. The December MS updates fubared my side-by-side version of IE7. Had to delete it and the offending registry key to get IE 6 working again.

**joebert** · Jan 31, 2006, 18:19

SELECT elements obey z-index now.

Native XMLHttpRequest seems to be working fine.
No CANVAS support. (boooo !)

**J Windebank** · Jan 31, 2006, 18:27

To uninstall: Start -> Control Panel -> Add or Remove Programs. Tick the box at the top "Show Updates" and you will find "Internet 7 Explorer Beta 2" under "Windows XP - Software Updates".

As you can tell my copy has already gone bye byes...

**drhowarddrfine** · Jan 31, 2006, 20:47

Well, Tony Aslett tried to adjust his site for IE7 and it screwed him up. He suggests there is a new opportunity for new designers to develop new IE7 hacks to fix IE7. **great**

**beley** · Jan 31, 2006, 21:23

It's true that IE 7 Beta removed IE 6. If you want to see it work, BrowserCam already has it on their machines. You can capture or remote control a machine and play with it. Of course, Browsercam isn't cheap, but for those of you who want to see what your sites look like in IE 7 w/out risking installing on your main machine it might be worth it.

**splitzer** · Jan 31, 2006, 21:30

yeah, tried its amazing. going to take over all other browsers.

**ramprage** · Jan 31, 2006, 21:36

Figures, lets release new software to get more downloads even though we haven't fixed the million security issues with the old version.... and nothing is worth the upgrade and has another million security holes.

Ahh a breath of fresh air with firefox.

**geosite** · Jan 31, 2006, 21:51

Wow, Microsoft exceeded my expectations. Scanning the posts on this thread, it sounds like they really laid a lemon. Of course, they have a LONG time to get it together. People probably won't acquire IE en masse until it's bundled with Windows, and I just read that Windows Vista might not be released this year after all. Some M$ bigwig hinted that it could be delayed yet again.

Let's see, how many Firefox upgrades will be released by July 2008?

**vgarcia** · Jan 31, 2006, 21:52

Originally Posted by 1ahosting

yeah, tried its amazing. going to take over all other browsers.

At the rate it's progressing relative to other browsers I doubt it. Maybe it will hold its current numbers, maybe.

**stymiee** · Jan 31, 2006, 21:59

Originally Posted by 1ahosting

yeah, tried its amazing. going to take over all other browsers.

Just in case you didn't notice IE already has a huge chunck of the browser marketshare so there is no "taking over" to be done. Only holding on and maybe recovering lost marketshare.

In the browser worls the best doesn't necessarily mean the most popular. If it did, IE wouldn't have any marketshare right now.

**JakeJeck** · Feb 1, 2006, 00:06

I've been using it at work since last week (msdn download) and it hasn't crashed and I haven't noticed any bugs. Only issue I've seen is that pages with googlemaps give a popup that say the site isn't using a valid key (which is incorrect because one is a site I created).

**drhowarddrfine** · Feb 1, 2006, 01:08

I haven't noticed any bugs.

They are all still there except the seven they claim they fixed.

**reteep** · Feb 1, 2006, 01:57

Originally Posted by dc dalton

Now that's the dumbest thing I've heard in a long time ... all those businesses who use win2k are screwed, typical MS

Well, due to the fact that MS also stopped the Support of win2k (patches etc.) it's just logical that they won't offer new Software on that plattforms either - in this case IE7. A company should update its Systems after 5 years anyway, but that's another discussion

I like IE7 so far, but still using Firefox atm. I've to familiarize myself with the new IE7 Look&Feel first.

It really seems like it killed my IE6 though, I don't see any way to go back right now

**Christoffer** · Feb 1, 2006, 02:59

Originally Posted by vgarcia

...which sticks it under the address bar. Hooray for UI consistency!

The menubar will be placed below the toolbar in most future Windows applications.

**ronanmagee** · Feb 1, 2006, 04:02

Originally Posted by wii

If I download/install this, will it screw up my IE6 installation ?

Taken from IE7 FAQ

Can I run the preview and IE6 at the same time?

No, the preview is a system upgrade that replaces IE6 on your computer with the preview code.

As Chris Wilson pointed out, "'IE' is actually a collection of system components - networking, browser hosting, core HTML rendering, printing, etc. When we install a new version of IE, we're installing it for all applications that use these system components - including the tiny iexplore.exe itself." Because of this, we do not support the various hacks that allow side by side running of IE6 and the IE7 Beta 2 Preview. Running with these could cause issues with the stability of a system.

**reteep** · Feb 1, 2006, 04:06

If you want to uninstall it, here's how it works: http://www.kdkeys.net/blogs/reteep/a...2/01/6363.aspx

**dionsiseire** · Feb 1, 2006, 04:25

overall i like it but i have my issues

firstly, installing it made me use IE again, and thus ive noticed that IE6 and IE7 render my webpage completely wrong (www.goldenplec.com) since i made the move to joomla/Vbulletin from phpnuke this week.

obviously i have a bit to go to get it working in both browsers but because im a firefox user i never noticed (completely forgot )

i dislike the File Edit View menu being below the address bar, it just feels wrong,

i really like the overview of tabs, thats very snazzy, something hopefully firefox will steal., ive not experienced the clunky scrolling myself, is it just my computer or is it bundled with the google toolbar? just checking because i doubt it. but as my default search would be set to google i find it funny that the built in search utility ( top right ) actually searches google ( and not msn as i thought it would )

if i could get the file menu back up to where im used to it being id be a bit happier, i like that some firefox shortcuts are the same in IE7 so browsing change became a little less tedious, for example Ctrl + T for tabs,

IE6 is now gone on my machine so anyone asking that question its definitely gone.

nice but not the complete solution yet

**Musicbox** · Feb 1, 2006, 04:32

shall i download and test it or wait for the standard version.

**reteep** · Feb 1, 2006, 04:40

Originally Posted by Musicbox

shall i download and test it or wait for the standard version.

It's not a bad idea to download and test your websites with it because it gonna take quite some time until the final version is out (second half of 2006).

You can completly remove it and go back to IE6, so it's no risk anyway, check this post for removal: http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/show...7&postcount=44

**peach** · Feb 1, 2006, 04:54

Originally Posted by vgarcia

At the rate it's progressing relative to other browsers I doubt it. Maybe it will hold its current numbers, maybe.

Microsoft knows how to take things over.

**Hal9k** · Feb 1, 2006, 05:12

Originally Posted by reteep

Well, due to the fact that MS also stopped the Support of win2k (patches etc.) it's just logical that they won't offer new Software on that plattforms either - in this case IE7. A company should update its Systems after 5 years anyway, but that's another discussion.

What? Windows 2000 support won't be phased out until 2010.

**mPeror** · Feb 1, 2006, 07:00

Originally Posted by dionsiseire

i really like the overview of tabs, thats very snazzy, something hopefully firefox will steal.

You mean something like this? it's been out for a long time.

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