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    ie7 public beta out! (DL Link Included!)

    Last edited by petesmc; Jan 31, 2006 at 12:23.

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    Misleading title, but I shouldn't expect any less from CNet.

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    True, however, the CNet article has already been modified since the link was taken down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petesmc
    True, however, the CNet article has already been modified since the link was taken down.
    The title hasn't been changed though, that's what I was talking about.

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    DL link now included!

    Just to note: This has already crashed my system and i've already found a few bugs. Also the CSS/HTML rendering support seems to be much improved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petesmc
    DL link now included!

    Just to note: This has already crashed my system and i've already found a few bugs. Also the CSS/HTML rendering support seems to be much improved.
    Yeah I got a bluescreen after installing too (on a Dell Optiplex at work).

    They actually didn't do much to improve HTML rendering (or CSS for that matter, but they did a little more to CSS than HTML). I already have one thing I need to fix on one of my sites

    I'm also not a fan of the fact that they REMOVED THE TOP MENU BAR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vgarcia
    They actually didn't do much to improve HTML rendering (or CSS for that matter, but they did a little more to CSS than HTML). I already have one thing I need to fix on one of my sites
    I wouldn't "fix" anything on your sites viewing it with BETA software. From other people's comments about bugs this thing seems to be pretty far from a final release anyway. Don't fix it yet - wait until a closer beta is released or just wait for the actual thing. You wouldn't want to "fix" it only to end up somehow breaking is even more horribly when the bug that is causing it gets fixed for the final release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czaries
    I wouldn't "fix" anything on your sites viewing it with BETA software. From other people's comments about bugs this thing seems to be pretty far from a final release anyway. Don't fix it yet - wait until a closer beta is released or just wait for the actual thing. You wouldn't want to "fix" it only to end up somehow breaking is even more horribly when the bug that is causing it gets fixed for the final release.
    Absolutely! Don't do a THING to your current sites ..... knowing MS everything could change by the time the final is out.

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    So many javascript changes, my ajax needs redoing on all my sites!

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    yeah it is unwise to change/fix/alter anything now ! be patient !

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    You can add the top menu bar by clicking the tools icon > toolbars > Classic Menu

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    Quote Originally Posted by petesmc
    You can add the top menu bar by clicking the tools icon > toolbars > Classic Menu
    ...which sticks it under the address bar. Hooray for UI consistency!

    Lest many people think I only downloaded it to complain: I didn't. I think it's a good thing that they're updating IE. Some of the things they did to it really puzzle me though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vgarcia
    ...which sticks it under the address bar. Hooray for UI consistency!
    The menubar will be placed below the toolbar in most future Windows applications.

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    If I download/install this, will it screw up my IE6 installation ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wii
    If I download/install this, will it screw up my IE6 installation ?
    Nope.
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    According to a thread - IE6 and IE7 at the same time? - in the 'official' IE 7 news group, installing IE 7 makes IE 6 go bye-bye. The December MS updates fubared my side-by-side version of IE7. Had to delete it and the offending registry key to get IE 6 working again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wii
    If I download/install this, will it screw up my IE6 installation ?
    Taken from IE7 FAQ

    Can I run the preview and IE6 at the same time?

    No, the preview is a system upgrade that replaces IE6 on your computer with the preview code.

    As Chris Wilson pointed out, "'IE' is actually a collection of system components - networking, browser hosting, core HTML rendering, printing, etc. When we install a new version of IE, we're installing it for all applications that use these system components - including the tiny iexplore.exe itself." Because of this, we do not support the various hacks that allow side by side running of IE6 and the IE7 Beta 2 Preview. Running with these could cause issues with the stability of a system.

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    If you want to uninstall it, here's how it works: http://www.kdkeys.net/blogs/reteep/a...2/01/6363.aspx

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    For ui retardedness, you should have seen MSDN beta. I have not installed this one yet* so I don't know of any new ui retardation they introduced since.

    *no spare machines running XP/2003; if anyone knows how to get it running on 2000 let me know)

    PS: Coolest new feature I have heard of->xmlhttp is now a native object. No mo active x kludges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wwb_99
    *no spare machines running XP/2003; if anyone knows how to get it running on 2000 let me know)
    It only runs on XPSP2 and newer, no 2000 support unfortunately.
    Quote Originally Posted by wwb_99
    PS: Coolest new feature I have heard of->xmlhttp is now a native object. No mo active x kludges.
    In 5 years when IE5/6 maybe finally die, yes. Until then we're still stuck with code forking. I do find it cool that a network admin can disable ActiveX and AJAX apps will still work though

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    Well, it bombs the Acid Test 2 pretty hard.

    Also, check out how it renders this site:
    http://www.shacknews.com/

    At least it renders png files correctly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaskoda
    At least it renders png files correctly...
    Depends on what you mean by correctly.

    Yes, PNG with 8-bit alpha channels display as they should - but you can't combine that with opacity. In other words you can't fade such a png image in or out.

    So, while it may be easier for the developer, there is nothing new as far the ultimate ability to display pngs on web sites.

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    Beginning of the end?

    With IE7 still falling short of standards, stilling missing min-height for example, and with the * html hack no longer being effective, could it’s release be what is required for the masses to switch to FireFox?

    The way I see it, if by the time IE7 becomes the only IE option there are still a lot of sites relying on old IE hacks, then the average user is going assume that there is something wrong with this new release and seek an alternative.

    What do you guys think?

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    "I do find it cool that a network admin can disable ActiveX and AJAX apps will still work though "

    I was about to comment on this exact topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vgarcia
    It only runs on XPSP2 and newer, no 2000 support unfortunately.
    Now that's the dumbest thing I've heard in a long time ... all those businesses who use win2k are screwed, typical MS


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