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    Quote Originally Posted by stymiee
    I have to be the token member to mention UltraEdit.
    i would've, if you didn't've

    ultraedit lets you load wordfiles, for example to colour-code syntax for various languages, which i use for .html, .css, .cfm, and .sql

    if, you know, you're comfortable working at the code level, but want more oomph than raw notepad

    you should see ultraedit's regexp capabilities, too, real handy for working with tags, elements, attributes, and stuff like that
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    Quote Originally Posted by wii
    I use http://www.araneae.com for all my coding.
    I like how that looks very easy to use

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    Quote Originally Posted by dek
    BBEdit for me, when I have the luxury of using my Mac. If there's a better text editor out there, I'll happily marry it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dek
    BBEdit for me, when I have the luxury of using my Mac. If there's a better text editor out there, I'll happily marry it. On the PC, it's Homesite - far from a favourite, but it does the job, has CVS support, and more to the point, it's the standard where I work.

    The visual editors - well - if that's what you like, that's great. But the day when one can produce better html / css / sql than me, quicker than I can do it with a nice text editor... - well - that day isn't here yet, but I doubt I'd change my mind, even then - I like to have that extra control, I suppose. A little like the old manual vs automatic gearbox debate. Give me manual every time.
    TextMate replaced all useages of BBEdit for me

    http://macromates.com/

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    dreamweaver for me...

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    Notepad doesn't have line numbering - that's important to me: especially when XHTML validation fails because of a specific line (same goes with mistakes made in php). If you never make mistakes, then line numbering isn't an issue but I'm a big fan of making mistakes.

    The other issue is personal taste. People like different features; that doesn't necessarily mean one program is better because it has more features - perhaps some people don't need those extra features.

    The flip side of that is that I think most people are unwilling to try a new program, even if it does have more features. People are just set in their way and are convinced their program is the best, without giving other programs a real shot.

    I use DM and TopStyle. My choice was based on the fact that those were the ones I was recommended to use when I started, so I've used them sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric.Coleman
    TextMate replaced all useages of BBEdit for me

    http://macromates.com/

    Go along, get married. Invite me
    Oh no-no-no - it takes more than just a quick smile and wink to get me that quickly.... even if the editor does seem to be quite a knockout at first glance...

    But in confidence, I might just try seeing Textmate for a while. On the side. Just to see how it goes....

    (downloading now, will report back)
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    Probably the number one annoyance about DW, for me anyway, has been fixed with version 8:

    The viewport renders CSS properly!

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    I use Topstyle daily. It's the best IDE/editor I've ever used and greatly speeds up development time (well at least for me).

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    Quote Originally Posted by r937
    i would've, if you didn't've

    ultraedit lets you load wordfiles, for example to colour-code syntax for various languages, which i use for .html, .css, .cfm, and .sql

    if, you know, you're comfortable working at the code level, but want more oomph than raw notepad

    you should see ultraedit's regexp capabilities, too, real handy for working with tags, elements, attributes, and stuff like that
    The syntax highlighting for virtually any language you code for is extremely handy. I use about a half dozen regularly and since I have room for up to 20 languages I added twelve more for languages I occassionally need to read for various reasons.

    Besides the awesome regex support there is just about every feature a hand-coder could ever want including code folding. I also really like the completely customizeable toolbar. It has only the buttons I want in the order I want them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dc dalton
    Why do we even need a seperate editor for CSS? What's wrong with one that does many things ....... like EditPlus?
    Nothing in particular. But TopStyle does CSS so well--main advantage being the live preview--that it really blows away the general text editor class for CSS.

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    Notepad++ & Zend Studio here!
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    Quote Originally Posted by peach
    HTML-Kit all the way.
    Custom color coding, built-in support for every language you can think of, regex batch replacements, auto-complete tags. If this editor doesn
    t do what you want, 1 of the hundreds of plugins for HTML-Kit probably does. (And it's freeware)
    Ya me too!

    HTML-Kit is excellent for FTP access as well.
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    No one has mentioned context

    By far my favorite editor, just needs a couple bugs fixed. Fast, good looking, and all the necessities (syntax, tabs powerful find/replace) plus a little more.

    Oh, and its free.

    http://www.context.cx/

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    BBEdit is what I like the most. BBEdit or the Lite version is what I have used mostly for web design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r937
    i would've, if you didn't've

    ultraedit lets you load wordfiles, for example to colour-code syntax for various languages, which i use for .html, .css, .cfm, and .sql

    if, you know, you're comfortable working at the code level, but want more oomph than raw notepad

    you should see ultraedit's regexp capabilities, too, real handy for working with tags, elements, attributes, and stuff like that
    Are you using the latest release? It's very buggy, for example, if you place the cursor at the beginning of the line and hit enter, instead of moving the line down one it duplicates it. That is, for a few seconds, until the duplicate decides to go away.

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    Quanta Plus for me. I like its organization.

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    What about WebCoder 2005? seems pretty nice so far with the trial

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    Quote Originally Posted by LinhGB
    My vote is for Quanta Plus and Vim. Occasionally I use Crimson when I'm on Billy's platform.
    I'll back you up, LinhGB - at least about vim, anyway

    Back in my Windows days, I very fondly used Dreamweaver at first; then a mixture of TopStyle, HTML-Kit and FileZilla. So I certainly agree with lostseed that TopStyle is Too Cool(tm). It helped me learn CSS really painlessly.

    But two years ago I installed Linux [evil grin!]

    Contrary to Mike Empuria's friendly jibes about the CLI, I find the unix command line to be a veritable swiss army knife of web development tools. Without vim, sed and grep, I would be lost these days. Even Dreamweaver (MX was the last I used) couldn't do some of the things I use these three tools for every day.

    So on Linux, there's very little I do with XHTML or CSS that doesn't happen in the shell. And on Windows, the tool I use most is PuTTY ... which allows me to connect back to a Linux machine and use the shell

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    [ps] cygwin is another lifeline when I'm on a billy-box.

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    Topstyle for CSS xmlspy for XHTML

    Topstyle is the best windows editor for CSS and I have used all the others mentioned

    best features:-

    • CSS rule browser with specificy (must have)
    • Related CSS (DW8 does it better)
    • CSS tidy & validate
    • HTML tidy & validate
    • rule collapsing
    • code completion
    • colour palette support from photoshop
    • HTML grey out
    • element and brace matching
    • Related CSS feature
    • Preview in IE/Mozilla
    • Site wide style management
    • very small footprint and fast load time


    There is one better feature in DW8 which is the specific CSS dialog - which is very very useful for those - why is it *doing* that moments. Also DW8 is far too slow for right click edit work pattern.

    XHTML - you really need a validating editor with DTD support - the best one of these is xmlspy from Altova. The Home edition is free but the pro version gives you extremely good XHTML compliance using the DTD and element / attribute completion - the key feature is built in validation.

    On the other hand why code to XHTML (unless you are in mobile when it does matter) when browser support is more directed to HTML 4.01 - but thats another issue.

    as always YMMV

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric.Coleman
    TextMate replaced all useages of BBEdit for me

    http://macromates.com/

    Go along, get married. Invite me
    Had a bit of a play with it now - it's definitely superb, but I haven't seen any reason to switch yet. What tipped the balance for you, and what do you prefer about it?
    Only dead fish go with the flow

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    Quote Originally Posted by wwb_99
    Nothing in particular. But TopStyle does CSS so well--main advantage being the live preview--that it really blows away the general text editor class for CSS.
    I write some of my CSS right in the firefox webdeveloper toolbar, so your changes take place right away and in the right browser too :d

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    i think this is depends on individual preferences, for me, PSPad is fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAIHMB
    Are you using the latest release? It's very buggy, for example, if you place the cursor at the beginning of the line and hit enter, instead of moving the line down one it duplicates it. That is, for a few seconds, until the duplicate decides to go away.
    I'm using 11.1 and it's rock solid.

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    It seems very light to me, much more so than BBEdit.

    I like the Project stuff better. Actually, I like the file browser in TextMate better.

    I didn't use BBEdit long enough to know, but TextMate has editable bundles. (Window -> Show Bundle Editor). These bundles have proven a huge timesaver for me. When im in php, I simply type:

    pr (-> hit the tab key) and I get something like:

    echo '<pre>'; print_r($variable); echo '</pre>';

    It's wonderful
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