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    OT: If I see another...

    CASINO-ON-NET ad, I am going to kill myself.

    Is online advertising is such a bad state that all we seem to get is Casino-on-bloody-net ads everywhere
    The answer to that is yes I think

    We've just got to hope that CPM rates pick up again, and we finally get some decent advertisers who can afford to pay for campaigns.

    I think i've had my little rant now [/rant]
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    I don't like to run casino ads on my literature site because it has a large student/minor audience.

    I do however run them (casino on net) on my wilderness survival site (cube) they pay pretty good, .25 CPM for the cube.

    The problem is right now is that online businesses do most of the online advertising, and a casino was a business model that worked.

    Besides, Casino On Net is atleast reputable, there are alot of shady ones out there.
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    Actually, that's a pretty good CPM rate for a cube.
    Which network do you use to get that?

    Yep, gambling has worked online - I'm not anti gambling or anything, though it's a shame other websites are finding it difficult to survive.
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    Serial Publisher silver trophy aspen's Avatar
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    I am thankful for casino on net, I think I have made more from them than any other company using various ad networks, at least they chnage there banners regulery as well, not like some who run the same banner over and over again for years.

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    I've seen sites with like 50 casino ads on one page... If I was one of the advertisers I would cry foul because they are deluting the value of my ad....
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    Originally posted by Jeremy W.
    I've seen sites with like 50 casino ads on one page... If I was one of the advertisers I would cry foul because they are deluting the value of my ad....
    I don't think any advertisers would be paying cpm for a site with lots of ads on the same page so They can't really complain.
    Last edited by jkcity; Aug 5, 2001 at 15:42.

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    Originally posted by jkcity


    I don't think any advertisers would be paying cpm for a site with lots of ads on the same page so They can't really complain.
    Advertisers can't really control this. If they advertise run of network on a site like BURST!, all members can run their ads and the advertisers can't really do much in controlling what publishers do on their sites.

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    id hate to of gone to Gamblers Anon, just to of gotten on the net, and BOOM!! every second site has a button saying click here to waste all your money!!

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    I think I am immune to them, I haven't noticed that many around. Or maybe I am visiting the wrong websites!

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    Originally posted by mjames

    Advertisers can't really control this. If they advertise run of network on a site like BURST!, all members can run their ads and the advertisers can't really do much in controlling what publishers do on their sites.
    This is true, But this is a problem the adnetworks must sort out for the advertisers, and not only for them for webmasters as well that follow the rules and stuff, cause it affects us as well, by reducing the amount of paid ads we can deliver.

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    Originally posted by jkcity


    This is true, But this is a problem the adnetworks must sort out for the advertisers, and not only for them for webmasters as well that follow the rules and stuff, cause it affects us as well, by reducing the amount of paid ads we can deliver.
    I concur. What ad serving companies must do to avoid members from loading two dozen ads on their pages is they must make limits on amounts of ads per page. Of course, not many people will want to put that many ads on, but there are always exceptions.

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    Originally posted by mjames

    I concur. What ad serving companies must do to avoid members from loading two dozen ads on their pages is they must make limits on amounts of ads per page. Of course, not many people will want to put that many ads on, but there are always exceptions.
    Most ad companies do have rules, sadly they hardly ever seem to be reinforced I know many sites that cheat, yes it could be somthing as simple has having to 486 banenrs on the same page, maybe not even from the same company but at the end of its all its still cheating.

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    I don't see a lot of casino ads, but I do see a lot of that "Shock the Monkey" ad

    I've played a few times too.

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    can never resist shocking that monkey

    i was reading an article at the register the other day that was talking about a report released that says that the profits made on the internetis goign to start rising again. its not going to resurrect all the ones that are gone, but it will be a major boost to the ones that are still around...

    tho i didnt go into much detail how this is going to happen

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    Originally posted by sforn
    I don't see a lot of casino ads, but I do see a lot of that "Shock the Monkey" ad

    I've played a few times too.
    I always shock the monkey, I never have any intention of staying at treeloot its just fun to do.

    The worst thing is now treeloot has made thier links open over the top of the currant page, and made it had to browse back, I guess they really want you to stay.

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    mjames wrote:
    "Advertisers can't really control this. If they advertise run of network on a site like BURST!, all members can run their ads and the advertisers can't really do much in controlling what publishers do on their sites."


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    True, advertisers can't control it, but the networks can. BURST!, for example, has strict rules about what publishers do and do not do, and if there are violations of the contract, they're switched to default mode and kicked out of the network.

    Advertisers, for example, won't want their ads running on sites that are only links or have pornography, gambling, and so forth. Perhaps it's ironic that there are gambling banners, but that's how it is. The advertisers are the ones paying the bills for the publishers and the networks.

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