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    Need help with selling objects online

    I'm goign to start another web page for my father really soon, and he may even sell some stuff over the net. I really have no idea what-so-ever on how to do this. I'm so new, I even wonder if this is the right place to do it.
    So, any suggestions/hints/tips/strategies are greatly encouraged. I will welcome all with open arms. Just....have no clue.
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    aren't you in luck

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    Thanks, this is helping a lot. Now I'll be able to get off on the right foot.
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    I'm sorry, could you be more specific?

    I'm not sure if you're seeking help on advertising, promotion, marketing, sales, accepting payment online, or graphic design for selling... or all of the above (I don't think there's enough time in the world to write on all of them!)
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    Well, he wants to sell supplements, becuase I'll be making a web site for his bench pressing lifts.
    I'm trying to get a head start on all this, but I'm not sure if he'll be able to do it yet. Even if he doesn't, it will still be some knowledge that could come in handy.
    And I believe he'll be selling them through his "providers". Anything more than that I don't know.
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    Re: Tips on Web Site Building

    There are so many tips on everything from web site design, to tools (ie, Frontpage vs HotDog, etc...) e-commerce methods for selling products online, to literally hundreds of tips on how to cost effectively market your father's site.

    <advisor edit: advertising your own services is not allowed in a response>.

    Thanks,

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    LadyLily,

    I'm sorry, I think you misunderstood. I didn't mean be specific about what he's selling, I meant could you be more specific about what advice you're seeking. There is simply too much information on the general question of "I need help selling things on line" to print it all.

    Do you need help on accepting payment for items?
    Do you need help on opening installing a shopping cart system for the site?
    Do you need help on finding the lowest priced merchant account provider?
    Do you need to know what a merchant account provider is?
    Do you need help on how to most effectively promote whatever it is that you're selling?
    Do you need help on finding a distributor for the product?
    Do you need help on finding business financing to open an online store?
    Do you need help on html programing to accept orders?
    .....


    (Please don't answer all of the above )

    If it's just "How do I start selling on the Web," I'd offer, educate yourself by reading everything you can starting with Sitepoints "Profit" area. Then you'll be able to better clarify what steps you need to take and can better ask for information on those steps.

    Otherwise I'm left guessing what you already know and what you don't.
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    I could come down to the bottom line and say I don't know anything! I just know I may have a shopping cart with the hosting I'll be having. How I implement this, get orders, carry them out is all foreign to me. I'll check out that profit area though. Also what really scares me about doing is all those orders. How woudl I do that?

    I can guess what a merchant account provider is but...am not certain.
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    Hi LadyLily,

    Let me try to help as much as I can I'll start at the very beginning - (probably) in order of things you'd have to do/learn:

    1) Html to get a site up (remember, I'm starting at the very beginning)
    2) Research a Web host - (search "Hosting" on SP you'll find some great posts)
    3) Learn FTP and upload your site to work out the kinks and make it look pretty.
    4) Learn CGI, MySql or ASP (or some other database type program), along with HTML forms and build some submission forms for your site.
    5) Learn graphics layout - go to the library and look under "Graphic Arts" You want your pages to look pretty.
    6) While you're there get some books on marketing. You'll want your pages to sell effectively.
    7) Heck, while you're there get some books on writing effective ad copy - its an art, but worth it
    8) Start researching payment providers. SP has some good info, search this forum for suggestions, and another member jconnley2 (danged if I remember his website) has info.
    9) Read till your eyes bug out.
    10) Have discussions - soon leading to arguements because of your splitting headache from reading too much - with your father about whick of the payment systems you've researched to use. There's pros and cons to each of them and (probably) none will do EXACTLY what you want it to do.
    11)Apply for your preferred payment provider or merchant account.
    12) Install your preferred payment provider or merchant account's software.
    13) Test your site and debug it to ACTUALLY get it working.
    14) Test some more and rip hair out because it's 3:00 am in the morning and it's STILL NOT WORKING
    15) Finally get it working (that's what you think)
    16) Have 900 of your best friends test the site out to see what are REAL idiot can do to your site
    17) Graciously accept appology of former "best" friend that FOUND the ONE bug that existed and thereby irretrievably CRASHED YOUR ENTIRE ECOMMERCE SITE.
    18) Reload eCommerce site because you read this article and were prepared for this by making a backup copy of the site.
    19) Fix the bux
    20) Begin prommotions. I say "begin" because you have just bought yourself a new job - no matter HOW succussful your site is you WILL NOW HAVE TO promote this *(^%()^* thing FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE!!!
    21) Pay roughly TONS of money to get it listed #476 in the wrong category on an obscure search engine.
    22) Watch with glee as you're FIRST ORDER COMES IN!
    23) Watch with dismay as "customer" emails you frantically to say that his card was stolen and he "didn't order that!"
    24) Finally get your real customer
    25) Realize you've got to promote some more

    Of course an intermediate step that should be inserted frequently is:
    a) Fall into a crying fit questioning WHY YOU EVER THOUGHT YOU WANTED TO DO THIS!!!

    Hope this helps, Remember me when you're a success!
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    Ok, I just read through my last post and am thinking that I am WAY too pesamistic -

    In fact, you might actually get TWO orders that both end up being charges from a stolen card....

    No, no, just kidding - I wanted to mention that when the orders DO come (and they will if you don't give up) you WILL experience a profound sense of joy - better (IMHO) really than you EVER could get, working for someone else.

    To your success!
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    Thanks, but after reading this, it all seems to soooo complicated. Oh well, better start learning, huh?
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