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    and you thought smarttags were bad...


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    Augh! That's awful.

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    That's terrible. Absolutely terrible.

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    What a flaming nerve! What is it with people these days? So desparate are they to make a buck that they flush any morals down the pan!!!
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    Someone please tell me there's something in copyright law to stop this sort of thing. I'd do my nut if something like this installed itself on my pc.
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    Well that's what you get for downloading naughty file-sharing programs.

    I don't quite understand how the links got into his code though? - or is it just that he/SF Gate is being thick?
    (or did I miss something?!)

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    will code HTML for food Michel V's Avatar
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    while delivering only what a consumer wants.
    Don't you just love that pretext ?
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    yeah, i dont get that either, how would the links get into his pages...?

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    I think he was thinking that just because HE saw the links on HIS site, he thinks everyone else does! *slaps forehead*

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    This kind of content control really sucks. And there's very little value-add in terms of advertising b/c it doesn't seem to be targeted particularly (unlike using cookies, for example).

    However I think (hope) that it will die a horrible death like other stupid online commerce ideas (dot com supermarkets, push technology etc.) The reason? People like the Internet because they're in control. They get to decide what they want to see.

    Consequently the surfing public are gonna get sick of this kind of thing, really fast. Fundamentally, people don't like being told what to do, especially by a computer that's wrong 90% of the time.

    You know what it reminds me of a bit? Clippy - everyone's favourite Office Assistant "Oooh! It looks to me like you're typing a letter! Here's a million and one options to make it slower and less enjoyable!". Eventually you turn the damn thing off and get on with writing your book report.
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    Hey, does anyone actually use those office characters? the moment one pops up, for me, it's "right click, hide assistant..."

    I think you only see the links if you have that program installed. meaning it ... "layers" over IE (or NS, whatever you use) and checks the html to see if there will be any relevant words.

    the people who get ultimatley hurt by this are the content providers ... that company is simply piggybacking off of the content websites...

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    can anyone say Third Voice?
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    This:
    And at antivirus-softwaremaker Symantec's Web site, TOPtext highlighted "virus protection" and displayed, "Click for Virus Protection at McAfee," with a link to Symantec's arch-rival, McAfee.com Corp.

    That's what instantly angered Scott Ross, new media director for the Web site of independent record label Moonshine Music of Los Angeles, when he downloaded TOPtext along with KaZaa. On his computer, stories about Moonshine's acts were linking to BMG Music.

    "I was screaming," Ross said. "What they are selling is the words on my Web site that I paid somebody to write."

    He also envisioned the beginning of a guerrilla advertising war. For example, he said, athletic-shoemaker Reebok could buy the word "shoe" to divert customers from competitor Nike's site, forcing Nike to retaliate.

    Hoppe wonders how many TOPtext users don't know they have the technology and believe the highlighted words were added by their favorite Web sites.
    is exactly why I hated the thought of Smart Tags.
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    Amen Creole.

    This is exactly what Microsoft has in mind with Smart Tags - I don't care what their marketing hype currently says on their website. They are in business to make money. That's fine. They can sell "words" on your website, while rendering your web content and direct your users to other places. Not a good thing.

    This is exactly why we need to stay opposed to these technologies.

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    Well, this is certainly a touchy issue.

    I like them. joking, joking.

    They're an outrage, to be quite honest. Just because someone has a program installed, it changes the links on all of those people's web sites? The users should be outraged, first of all, that their content can be toyed with by some third party program that sometimes they had no knowledge of ever having installed? That would make me flaming mad.

    What can we (as a group, or as individuals) do to raise an outcry over something like this? Surely something must be done. Whether the user installed it or not, technically they are replacing the content on someone's web site, which is by all means illegal! What loophole did they find this time?

    eesh, it's crazy, I tell ya.
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    Well, that explains it. I got this top text thing awhile back (after downloading Kazaa - didn't make the connection at the time) - for awhile I thought I had smart tags which I knew was impossible. Figured it out the other day anyway. The good news is that these things are so incredibly annoying that I don't know why anyone would want to use them voluntarily - I ended up switching browsers to avoid it (and will not be switching back!) since it only seems to work in IE. The bad news is that this toptext thing seems to install itself without the users knowledge, so you don't know how those things go there or how to get rid of them. At least smarttags are (supposed to be) an opt-in thing for the user.
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    well, at least you can uninstall teh thing that came with kazaa... MS will be a diff story

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    Hmmm

    Seems like they want to get rid of the web publishers of the world.

    Just look at how most web publishers are struggling to survive and what can big companies do? Microsoft wants smart tags, Norton wants ad Blocking software and now this. Seems like we are getting shafted. I can't believe this is legal, is it?

    News Flash:
    "Web publishers frustrated with declining revenue and content alterting software found involved in terrorist activity"?

    Who knows.
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    I just read this article on Smart Tags:

    How to Protect Your Site from Smart Tag Visitor Poaching


    Everyone should read it.

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    I found these links that may be helpful:
    http://www.searchking.com/ezulakiller/
    They say they have a srcipt to stop ezula from changing you pages. (is it the same thing as top text?)

    http://www.whirlywiryweb.com/q/ezula.asp
    has a script to detect it on a users system so you can let them know why it's an invasion of their privacy how to uninstall it.

    I'm more than a bit nervouse to install top text on my computer, so I can't tell if either of these work. If someone has been braver than me, can you let us know if it works?

    Until they are forced to stop this (I hope!), I'd really like to focus on how to control what is shown on my websites from my side.

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    Publisher friendly smart tags

    Hi everyone,
    We are testing our smart tag technology which will be publisher friendly. Let me explain. Let's say you are about to publish an article. Before you do so, you come to affiliate network (CJ, BeFree, etc.), log in to your account, paste your article into special form, hit submit. After that the system will scan your article for keywords, and mark them as smart tags with your own account info. Then you copy your article, and paste it into your site. If your user decides to click on keyword - you earn commission.
    What do you guys think?
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    Originally posted by honging
    well, at least you can uninstall teh thing that came with kazaa... MS will be a diff story
    Not exactly. The Top Text is reported to leave a little "backdoor" open so that it can be reinstalled without your knowledge. Nice huh.

    Everyone be sure to check out the GetHighForums link above for more info.

    Chris

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    That IS terrible, horrifying. I am glad I don't have KaZaa - for KaZaa users, switch to Morpheus ASAP and uninstall that!

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    I'm glad I don't have any of that junk installed
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