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    Computer Certifications

    What are some hot certifications to get? Wheres the money at?

    also how long before they expire, you need to retest every few years right?

    I want to take some certs, but I'll be a freshman in college next year so they might go to waste.
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    The only certifcates worth anything out there are gift certificates and stock certificates, and even the stock ones aren't worth much if they are in certain dotcom's now.

    Topically, most of these certs that you see offered by some computer school or association are worth as much as the paper they are printed on. A paper for a "Certified Webmaster", etc. is just that, a piece of paper. There are way too many vapor schools/associations/etc that are just in the business to sell these certs.

    Many employers don't care what certs you may have, and some will judge you less if you claim some. Experience is usually the money factor.
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    so an employer wouldn't care if your Oracle, MCSE or CCNA certifited?
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    Depends who issued those certs and on the employer. If the certs come right from the horses mouth (Microsoft, Oracle, etc) and not some company that's only income os issuing certs, then they are worth a little more than not having them.
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    Hi,

    Microsoft, Novell, CISCO, Red Hat and Oracle are all very well recognised.

    It really depends on what you want to do out school.

    I myself have have a Diploma in I.T. and got a little passed half way, through my MCSE before a career change to the web development arena after being a Network technician for a few years.

    Things like the A+ and webmaster certification are really hot air, I have never really seen anyone get too far with them.

    What I have found from experience is that your only worth as much as your highest qualification and only worth something if you have the experience to back the qualification up with.

    I've seen people with MCSE or MCP's only land help desk or low level support jobs, but after a while it really does pay off.

    I would suggest you do one of the lower ones first i.e. and MCP or CNA and do the MCSE or CNE after you get a job, because there is such a thing as "Over Qualifed".

    Hope this has helped
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    I am taking A+ cert in school a free course, but the test is too high, and since it is like you say hot air...I may not get it.....But I think if I got the expierence like you said..it may be worth it
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    In my area, being Novell Certified (which I am currently working toward) means double your salary!
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    Originally posted by TheComputerGuy
    I am taking A+ cert in school a free course, but the test is too high, and since it is like you say hot air...I may not get it.....But I think if I got the expierence like you said..it may be worth it
    Hey if it's free it's still a notch on your belt (so to speak), with the statment "Just hot air" it is just hot air if you only have it and no other certification, it's really not somthing I have ever seen as a bonous or nececity in job descriptions.
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    I've got a webmaster certification from Penn State University.

    Was a 12 class program, I took it all online. Most of it I already knew, the coding and design and all of that. But I did learn a bit about the theory behind design and legal issues etc, things you usually don't pick up on your own.

    Anyways the program is expensive (like $3600) but I would recommend it to others. If only they'd let you test out of the HTML courses and save on tuition
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    Well,

    I am not here to show off what courses I have done...
    but here is a small list..

    ASP and VB Scripting
    IT Professional in E-Commerce
    PC Hardware.. doing it... After that I would complete A+
    Web Design in FrontPage 98... did that course in early 98
    a long list follows...

    My next course I would be deciding soon.. but I can't get in contact with a reputable institute..

    My college would be starting within 15-20 Days so I think I have to look out for some nice institute which offers classes in evening.

    Now I want some opinions from you people. which course should I do from below or even you can tell one.

    1). MCSE
    2). CCNA
    3). Linux
    4). ????????????
    5). C/C++

    Please recommend me some nice ones... Money is a not a factor...

    My father does not allows me to do job anywhere although I got some excellent offers ..

    Anyways, I am waiting for your replies.. so reply soon..


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    think i read somewhere that ccna was most in demand right now. although i do think that both ccne and mcse are way overpriced (what the market supports, not what would be ethical to charge based on the length of the couses--aint capitalism wonderfull) best bet is to find an employer that will share the cost with you in exchange for an length of employment contract or something
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    I'm currently working towards my MCSE in Windows 2000. I've passed the practices I've done so I would imagine I'll take at least one of the 6 or so tests this summer.

    I think it's well worth it - if you can manage all the training yourself, then the exam costs $100 or so which is fair enough.

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    Hi,

    You seam to have been doing alot of certification towards the programming side.

    What career path do you wish to persue?

    MCSD's are also very saught after
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    What you should take next is:

    sun certified java programmer..

    thats if you are into java....

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    hello,

    basjen & big_al.. t0 whom are you recommending those certificatioons to ?? me ??

    thanks,
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    Originally posted by Omair Haroon
    hello,

    basjen & big_al.. t0 whom are you recommending those certificatioons to ?? me ??

    thanks,
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    Well,

    thanks for the recommendations.. but i personally don't like t go for a MCSD.

    Well, My aim in life is to become a Computer Wizard.. like Bill Gates.. Maybe better than him


    On of my friend told me that Java is tooo much boring.. so I won't be doing that too..

    I am searching for an institute which have daily classes for MSCE + i.. Yes, that's what I am planning to do..


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    If you want to be a computer wizard you need to take Computer Science.

    Certifications will teach you a program or a platform, they're not going to teach you computer theory, and all that high level stuff.

    You should also take up to calculus 4.
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    Yup.. you are right aspen..

    Next monday is my result ... and i would be enter the college life... . I am willing to take Pre-Engineering as the subject..


    What is calculas 4 ? Never heard of it..

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    Originally posted by Omair Haroon


    Well, My aim in life is to become a Computer Wizard.. like Bill Gates.. Maybe better than him

    One word IMPOSSIBLE, the way technology is going you can never be a true "Wizard" at everything, you would really have to specialise in order to be one.

    If you want to be a wizard at fixing computers a Diploma and a whole lot of research, plus practical experience.

    A COmputer Engeneering degree would be very valuable to you. Knowing what goes on inside a PC is alot different to being able to take out a sound Card

    Binary Mathamatics is always good to learn too
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    most computer science programs require high level calculus.

    Calculus 4 would probably be the highest level math you would need to take.

    First take

    geometry, algebra, trig, calc, calc1, calc2, calc3

    and probably statistics somewhere.
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    Well, aspen...


    There is nothing like Calculas here.. I will ask the college management about it..

    Hmm.. big_al.. I just built a complete pc for a friend of mine and configured all for him.. and guess what ? I did in my first attempt..


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    Originally posted by Omair Haroon

    Hmm.. big_al.. I just built a complete pc for a friend of mine and configured all for him.. and guess what ? I did in my first attempt..


    Coool Naa!

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    I don't think you understood me right, It's not very hard to put a system together, but learning about the internals i.e. what is the bus and how does it work, what is the IRQ and how does it work, CPU architecture, RAM theory, etc etc.
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    Ohh! big_al..

    I am sorry that I could'nt get you right at thhat time..
    BUt Now I get you..

    Yes, at first iit was a bit difficult for me to know & remember what thing does what.. but slowly and gradually I have leanred it by tits and bits..

    btw, yesterday I just repaired by cdrom.. the cdrom was not working 2 years back. so i got a new cdrom and replaced it.. but yesterday when I opened it. i realized that only the timings of the lens were disturbed and nothing else

    But I have repaired it now..

    Thanks for the clarification though!

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    Here is my list of certs
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    I think its already been said in an earlier post, experience is what counts, and proof of ability through example. I have a rather well paying job and as you can see by my list, I have no certs. I don't claim to be an expert in anything as there is way too much to learn and things change rapidly. My recommendation is to start getting experience under your belt. Don't try to master every language, but instead get a good basic knowledge of all of them. If you can prove or convince a potential employer that you have the skills, you are going to have a better chance of getting hired.

    And furthermore, any company with an ad like:

    Must know ASP, JSP, Servlets, PHP, ColdFusion, IIS, Apache, Soalris, Java, Javascript, DHTML, HTML, Python, PERL, MCSE, Oracle, SQL Server, etc....

    Doesn't sound like a very fun place to learn, since they obviously have no clue what each one of things are. Just my 2 cents.
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