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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithT
    I started computers when I was 11 I think, with my very own Windows 98 machine. I'm now 16, with my very own Debian machine. I spent most of my time just playing around on computers, doing what I could. My parents enver really let me go anywhere, so I looked to other things. I got addicted, and take every chance I can to learn. My school paid for my A+ certification in May, and this coming year they'll be paying for my Network+ and possibly Linux+.

    I don't need much more of a life, I'm pretty active at school plenty of friends; no sports or such, and have a wonderful girlfriend going on almost 2 years now. That's going to turn into much more in the years to come
    Out of curiosity, what do you play on doing after high school?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sputza
    Out of curiosity, what do you play on doing after high school?

    Most likely a type of computer programming or engineering, I was also thinking of teaching programming or web development at a university.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithT
    Most likely a type of computer programming or engineering, I was also thinking of teaching programming or web development at a university.
    PLease don't be like some of my lecturers. They had done college, University, teacher training then straight to teaching. Get some real world experience, it will stand you in good stead. The ones who hadn't had real jobs didn't understand that not everything is always done by the book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithT
    Most likely a type of computer programming or engineering, I was also thinking of teaching programming or web development at a university.
    Thats good. You should find something to your liking in that field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mPeror
    Also , money doesn't really buy you happiness. Yes you wouldn't have to worry about bills and you can buy cool stuff , but that's not what happiness is all about. If you don't have friends or anyone close to you , you wouldn't enjoy life much.
    "Money can't buy me happiness, but I'm happiest when I can buy what I want, anytime that I want, Get high when I want"

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    Im pretty sure many kids just enjoy doing programming, designing etc. I'm 16 and i've only bieng designing for 2 years. I still have a life. I have many friends, i do normal things such as go to the cinema and just generally hang out. Also, about bieng specialised, I can do normal things too. My GCSE results are released in August. Im expected an A in English, Science and ICT, a C in maths and a B/C in others. I have only been into Web Design for about 2 years now and in this time have become good at Standards Compliant XHTML and CSS, accessibility and PHP and MySQL. I think I am just a quick learner, not a computer geek who sits in front of a computer 20 hours of the day, sleeps for 3 hours and socialises for 1 hour. And, trust my luck, when I start my A-level Computing course in September, guess which server side language is used. No, not PHP like I have learned but ASP, which I chose not to learn. Yay. lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egor
    I've been thinking about this too, for a while now. I feel these 'kids' are the ones with not many friends and are are 'geeky', somewhat. No offence to all you kids reading this, but... "get a life"!...

    Experiment with chicks/guys, not computers. You won't get a second chance, or at least it won't be as easy later on.
    I was 12 when I started making money off the net. I have more friends than most people and I lost my virginity at 16, just like the average kid. I even played all the basic sports like basketball, baseball, I was the star football player on the "B" team, and soccer. I consider myself a geek but none of my friends do. Take that into consideration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Twig
    Haha... No friends at all? That would be pretty hard. Even a geek can have friends.
    I don't have any because I just moved house, It doesn't even feel bad.. but does when you want to do somthing with your friends and you have none

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    I have to say that I find it in questionable taste to ponder how other people spend their lives, simply because they are more advanced than you in specific things. To do so often feels like a sad personal shot that makes you appear envious. I'm not saying you are, but it can seem that way. It is best to simply focus on one's self. What may seem like a "natural" or ideal childhood to you may seem like an unnatural or far less ideal childhood to another.

    People can live their lives as they wish without our scrutiny. There is nothing wrong with reading books or working on your websites instead of "playing with other kids." I mean, if you spend 16 hours a day at the PC and the other 8 sleeping - OK, that's a problem. But, what I am seeing here is poor steriotypes that were almost always a bit iffy, but fit even less today. The key is that you enjoy what you are doing. Cory M. said it extremely well: "There's no reason for teenager socializiation to center on dating; enjoy people in whatever way is comfortable."

    As long as you learned a lot and had fun, that's the ideal childhood. How you get to that point and what you use it for is your choice. People live and learn in different ways.

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    I'm against a child/teen spending his or her life on their computer but I'm not against them making money using the computer.

    Think of it this way:

    When you were a kid, you mowed lawns, sold lemonade, etc; Times have changed! Kids grow up on computers. If they are clever enough, they can make a quick buck.

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    It's not about making a quick buck. I myself work online for a living, so when I have freetime (Not usually likely), I'm online designing or coding something for someone. Other than that, I'm almost always off at soccer practice, or during the school year after school working on newspaper.

    People need to have social interactions with other people their age, although that doesn't mean because "we" have gotten a head start on a job that teenagers here have no social life. That's an unfair stereotype.
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    Quote Originally Posted by codyrockx
    It's not about making a quick buck. I myself work online for a living, so when I have freetime (Not usually likely), I'm online designing or coding something for someone. Other than that, I'm almost always off at soccer practice, or during the school year after school working on newspaper.

    People need to have social interactions with other people their age, although that doesn't mean because "we" have gotten a head start on a job that teenagers here have no social life. That's an unfair stereotype.
    I don't mean a quick buck in a bad way. I don't think many teens 16 or younger work enough to consider it a "living". In the real world, a living would mean enough money to pay rent, pay for food, etc.

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    I know, and technically I would have enough for a "living". I just pay for stuff like video games. I have the hardest time saving money!
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    Quote Originally Posted by codyrockx
    I know, and technically I would have enough for a "living". I just pay for stuff like video games. I have the hardest time saving money!
    how much do you consider to be a living, I mean realistically would you say you make enough money to go out on your own and pay for your own rent, bills, food and what ever other expenses may arise if you werent being supported by parents.

    A lot of kids might think they make enough for a living but truely they dont, not that im saying this is necessarly the case with you since i have no idea how much you make but when I was in my teens i thought $200 a week was a lot of money but really its not.

    So perhaps making money on the interet for you maybe more like the part-time job in a supermarket or fast food place that a lot of other kids would have.

    So what Im saying is I don't see anything wrong with these kids trying to make money using there computer skills its a hell of a lot better than crappy jobs i had in school, provided it dosnt control there life and they still hang out with friends, play sport or whatever else kids might do i dont see a problem, like i said its no different to working part-time in a supermarket only its better because they can do something they enjoy and also helps them get some skills for the future ... but as others have said the social skills count a lot to so thats why its important they have a life outside of computers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpatterson
    Im expected an A in English
    I wonder how you expect an A . hehe , j/k
    Quote Originally Posted by iFroggy
    To do so often feels like a sad personal shot that makes you appear envious.
    If you're talking about me , no i'm not envious. I'm just curious. I shouldn't be envious , because no matter how good i am there will always be many people who are way better.[quote=iFroggy]What may seem like a "natural" or ideal childhood to you may seem like an unnatural or far less ideal childhood to another.[/quoteYea , but when a kid spend around 11 hours a day working on the computer; then it's unnatural. Too much of anything is unnatural.

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    I guess its not bad if these kids realize that sitting on the computer for endless hours of the night at such a young age it will only lead to heart problems in the future because they are not outside getting the exercise they need. I started web design when I was 14. I did not stay inside all hours of the day and night. The first site I started was a skateboard site called LoserLabeled.com. I created this at the time because I was skating AM for a few companies and wanted a site that I could show my videos from aswell as make a local skateboard team.

    Here is what the site looked like:

    http://www.loserlabeled.com/skatevids.shtml

    All in all I think if you like what your doing and you gain interest in it at a young age that will only benefit you in the future with more years of experience and thousands of developement projects under your belt. But its not cool to sit inside all day and work at the age of 13-16. But you also got to take into mind, what if some of these kids live in the country? Im a country boy and life sucks out here if you dont have a vehicle.

    I am now 21 and happy that I did not waste all my teen years on a computer.
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    I think that some of you are dealing too much in bitter extremes. For instance: grr... <person younger than me and not yet 18> "stole" "my" business or is better than me at something... those shut in, friendless, sicko geek, social rejects! Why shouldn't they take as long as to start something as I did in my "normal" and "natural" childhood? I mean, seriously. That's not really how it is. Even if it seems that way to you. Sure, there is a very small percentage that is overboard, but the same can be said for the adult population, as well. Whether it be a PC, TV, Video Games or all sorts of hobbies or tasks, too much of something and not enough of something else can be hazardous...

    And I think when we're talking about someone 10-12, that's a bit different than someone 13-16, as well. Especially 15 and 16. By then a lot of kids have an idea of what they want to be (i.e. something they love) and are working toward that love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vgarcia
    I guarantee you that money won't get your formative years back. Coincidentally, those are also the years you learn about how interpersonal relationships work. Depriving yourself of those years can lead to some bad results.
    Excellent advice from an advisor!
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    Its ok to spend your time working at 16+ though as you would only be working for somone else so if you can support yourself your doing an amazing job at 16.

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    Its summer... shouldnt kids be outside??? There is a time for computers... and then there is a time for a life... IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by sputza
    Its summer... shouldnt kids be outside??? There is a time for computers... and then there is a time for a life... IMO
    You'd be surprised at how much time non-geek kids spend inside, often on computers. And being a geek does not disallow you the freedom of going outside.

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    Most teenagers tend to use the computer alot during the summer. It's just they use it for less productive things.

    Personally, I've been playing a lot of lacrosse this summer, but it's ridiculously hot out(105 heat index today) and I don't like going to the pool cuz my friends go to a different one. I have been trying to go the gym as much as possible.

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    I'm 16 almost 18 =) Well I've had what i think to be, a good childhood. I came into web development at the tender age of 9 (belive it or not!) Yes i didn't really know what the heck i was doing back then but i managed to create afew web sites using drop n' drag services such as homestead. Anyhow i got into this with couple of mates at a sleep over - who happen to be 2 girls and 1 boy =D

    So to say we are the geeky kids with no friends, isn't entirely true..

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    No matter your age.. its important to have a pretty balanced lifestyle. Being stuck inside all day on a computer isn't good whether you are 10 or 50. We all need some sort of balance. I'm pretty impressed by some of the younger people on this forum.. although I do wonder why in the world they are doing it b/c as soon as they are old enough to be on their own.. they won't have nearly as much "down time" unfortunately. I value my playtime and cant get enough! If you have the luxury of doing other stuff off the computer.. you should take it. That goes for everyone! Okay.. Im done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithT
    Most likely a type of computer programming or engineering, I was also thinking of teaching programming or web development at a university.
    Don't go into engineering, it hurts. :'(
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