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    Those "professional" kids..

    In the past 5 years ; i've met many kids (13-15 years old) who are really good at their computer-related field. Whether it's designing , programming or even low level programming , they always seem like they've been doing it for years.

    A plenty of them run successful sites , some involve with projects , some got hired in popular companies and work with their 30 years old colleagues. I've even met one who actually write computer books (but he was 16 or 17).

    My question is ; how did those kids spend their childhood? were they playing with other kids or reading computer books at home? did they play games or preffered to maintain their sites instead? or did they have a natural childhood but happen to learn things really fast?

    I don't know. The only thing i'm sure of is that they make me feel like i'm "old" or "too late" which is sometimes a bit frustrating.

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    I've been thinking about this too, for a while now. I feel these 'kids' are the ones with not many friends and are are 'geeky', somewhat. No offence to all you kids reading this, but... "get a life"!...

    Experiment with chicks/guys, not computers. You won't get a second chance, or at least it won't be as easy later on.

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    I dont know if they shouldnt wait a while to get a life. Its so much easier to start "living" socially when you're retired at 24 with enough money to buy happiness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dache
    I dont know if they shouldnt wait a while to get a life. Its so much easier to start "living" socially when you're retired at 24 with enough money to buy happiness.
    I guarantee you that money won't get your formative years back. Coincidentally, those are also the years you learn about how interpersonal relationships work. Depriving yourself of those years can lead to some bad results.

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    i'm nearly 30 and just retreading myself properly for what i want to do. I've seen some of these, and yes they are _Very_ good at what they do. However they have little in the way of general skills. They might be able to produce beautiful code, but they tend to be specialised to the point they can't even do something simple like change a plug without googling it up 1st.

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    I'm 16 an I've been doing web design since I was 13. I learned PHP last year when I was 15. I taught myself by reading books while in the car going out of town. We go out of town alot so i had a lot of time.

    Granted, I am no where near as good as some kids my age are. But it's a good way to get me some extra money, and I don't have to work at some fast food restaurant.

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    It's much easier to learn things during childhood. And with computers being much more present in this day, children have more access to learn things on computer. If that makes sense...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaker
    I've seen some of these, and yes they are _Very_ good at what they do. However they have little in the way of general skills. They might be able to produce beautiful code, but they tend to be specialised to the point they can't even do something simple like change a plug without googling it up 1st.
    People like this tend to miss the big picture. For example, I had a guy add me via MSN recently, and he started the conversation like, "Do you have work for me"? It's like, okay, have your manners gone down the drain...

    I don't look for the 'mad as' skill as much as I look for reliability, and the young ones just don't seem to cut it. Of course, there are exceptions.

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    I feel old an ancient like you guys at times when I think of the same thing. Its one thing I hold against my parents who didnt let me have a pc when they should have. < For dumb reasons. Anyways back when I was interested in them I remember reading about 386s and 486s being the "bomb" ot the latest and greatest lol. If I could have had one I would be more into coding and programing than I am now. Heck I probably could have ended up being ther one who started aol or some such company. Back then I hadnt even heard of the internet. There was only "bbs" and such things. I remember spending the some time with my cos and we tried downloading a picture that was literally going to take hours and get us in trouble lol. If could have started way back then like I should have been able to I would be a multi millionare or by now. As it is I have ideas now I cant even tell but only my close friends. Things that havent been thought up yet. My biggest problem not being in command of a team of designers and programmers who can do what I cant. I try not to think about it to much or really would get me down.

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    You can't play all the time. So, when you're bored, just hop on some forums, read some manuals, and screw around with PHP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dache
    I dont know if they shouldnt wait a while to get a life. Its so much easier to start "living" socially when you're retired at 24 with enough money to buy happiness.
    this is sooooooo wrong it hurts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Egor
    I feel these 'kids' are the ones with not many friends and are are 'geeky', somewhat.
    Or have no friends at all , which could be the reason they stay at home learning\doing stuff all the time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dache
    Its so much easier to start "living" socially when you're retired at 24 with enough money to buy happiness.
    retire at 24??!!! man that's REALLY early. I mean there are many people who start their lives at 24. Also , money doesn't really buy you happiness. Yes you wouldn't have to worry about bills and you can buy cool stuff , but that's not what happiness is all about. If you don't have friends or anyone close to you , you wouldn't enjoy life much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mPeror
    Or have no friends at all , which could be the reason they stay at home learning\doing stuff all the time.
    Haha... No friends at all? That would be pretty hard. Even a geek can have friends.

    And learning languages and design can come naturally. All you need is a little bit of reference (i.e. the manual) and a few examples. You really don't have to spend 23458907 hours a day learning to be smart.

    Every "professional kid" on Sitepoint I have talked to has friends. You don't have to bang every girl you see to have a life. Though come to think of it, I have talked to some kids on Sitepoint that seem to be that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dache
    Its so much easier to start "living" socially when you're retired at 24 with enough money to buy happiness.
    That is not true. When you have real money, people see you as just 'money.'

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    Hey, It isn't my fault everyone is boring here. Frankly, my friends just suck, and I become bored easily. So, I spend half my time designing and half my time with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mPeror
    Or have no friends at all , which could be the reason they stay at home learning\doing stuff all the time.
    I'm like 15 and I usually go over to the technical section in the Borders stores or whatever because I read enough in school. Once in a while I buy some good book and find a good author, like I'm hooked on Dan Brown's books right now. But I have a few friends. So what if I'm a geek (in all the top bands at school and a website? Geek), I still have enough friends. And I either do this or I have nothing else to do except video games or practice my trumpet. I don't really like sports. Once in a while I'll shoot the basketball outside my house but this is more fun than trying to get a good future and crap. That's just a cover we kids use to get our parents to keep letting us do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Carnegie, in How to Win Friends and Influence People
    These investigations revealed that even in such technical lines as engineering, about 15 percent of one's financial success is due to one's technical knowledge and about 85 percent is due to skill in human engineering- to personality and the ability to lead people.
    I think it's highly relevant to this discussion.
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    lmao

    I grew up in the countryside catching crickets & living fish with my bare hands. Once I moved to the oh-so-very urban Toronto I picked up graphic design in less than 2 years.

    We're all very fast learners when we're young, that's all
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    Well I can say for myself atleast that I have alot of friends. I've just learned all the computer/graphics stuff while I'm up at 12 PM every night because I'm an insomniac.
    *Checks the clock: 11:26, yep *

    So what if I am a bit of a geek? I've been called a band geek (which first of all I'm not that good ), a computer geek (hah, like I've ever taken a computer class at school? Well, one, but that was required: A+ ), and a newspaper geek. (I'm an editor on the staff that's my favorite class!)

    Now that you know a bit more about me I would say that I have a lot of friends. On top of all that and a couple AP classes, I'm playing soccer this year also. Maybe I'm just not the average "geek" but I have tons of friends, I got probably the biggest mouth at school, and I just like doing everything basically.
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    well i mean my life is this...i go to school i have fun with my friends i come back home eat then sit infront computer and chat do watever i need to do...and learn some new stuff everyday. then during weekends i go out. thats it

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    Post Re: Adolescent Experimentation

    Quote Originally Posted by Egor
    I've been thinking about this too, for a while now. I feel these 'kids' are the ones with not many friends and are are 'geeky', somewhat. No offence to all you kids reading this, but... "get a life"!...

    Experiment with chicks/guys, not computers. You won't get a second chance, or at least it won't be as easy later on.
    I think it's a mistake to consider those two things mutually exclusive. Many people, if not most, get interested in what may ultimately become their life-long careers during their pre-teen and teen years, and nevertheless have perfectly "normal" social lives.

    But for that matter, is there such a thing as a "normal" social life? There's no reason for teenager socializiation to center on dating; enjoy people in whatever way is comfortable. I consider myself to be a slightly introverted person, in that social activities are enjoyable but exhausting. The result, as it has been for at least two years, is that I get most of my socialization "done" during school, and only occasionally arrange out-of-school get-togethers. This suits me fine: It allows me to enjoy the people I like, yet not feel that I have to be with them around the clock; it also allows me to do what I enjoy doing, which for some people would be sports or arts, but for me is computer work, philosophy, and writing.

    There's just no one "normal" approach to any phase of life, let alone one of experimentation with the world.

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    Awesome thread.

    I started web design when I was around 13. I am now 21, and making some good money creating digital works. I learned most of my stuff from the good ol view source in Netscape (AKA Nutscrape or Netwaste) back in the day. Unlike most of the geeks, I had a life away from the computer.

    I went out with friends and played competitive soccer for years. Oh, lets not forget the women Its a must to date... or you are doomed to be married to your computer.

    Once you reach a certain level of skill, its best to go to school for a bit to teach you some more stuff. That’s what I did.

    For those of you ‘kids’ who are great designers/programmers… get out and do some things with real people! If you already have a life… good for you! Once you get into the work force, you will realize that employers are looking for 'people skills' over 'tech skills'. If you can’t communicate because you never leave your room… then you are screwed.
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    I started computers when I was 11 I think, with my very own Windows 98 machine. I'm now 16, with my very own Debian machine. I spent most of my time just playing around on computers, doing what I could. My parents enver really let me go anywhere, so I looked to other things. I got addicted, and take every chance I can to learn. My school paid for my A+ certification in May, and this coming year they'll be paying for my Network+ and possibly Linux+.

    I don't need much more of a life, I'm pretty active at school plenty of friends; no sports or such, and have a wonderful girlfriend going on almost 2 years now. That's going to turn into much more in the years to come

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    meh im 14 and i started web design last year. i sell my stuff on the internet to save up for a car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowX55
    i sell my stuff on the internet to save up for a car.
    I did the same thing.

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