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    eCommerce specialist hotnuts21's Avatar
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    SEM Kit Reference query

    On page 47 of the SEM kit Dan reccomends using a free script from his site called STAT, an analysis tool.

    However the tool is no longer available with a message saying that enough beta testers have used the software blah blah.

    2 questions/points
    Firstly is there anywhere else I can download this from?

    Secondly if it was just in beta testing and had a possibility of being pulled, shouldnt this have been outlined in the kit. Its not like the kit is years old? Also maybe in future where possible, Sitepoint could host or provide and reccomended software, where the author is concerned, or at least try to ensure it will be up for some time. Of course this is where the author/sitepoint have some control and I understand this is difficult over 3rd party software.

    its just annoying when you go to use something that is not there!
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    Very sorry to have wasted such a huge amount of your time, Mr. Nuts. The tool in its original incarnation used the Google API, which is too limited in the number of queries to make it useful in a production system.

    We had planned to develop a release version with the Yahoo API, which allows a lot more queries, but I simply haven't had the time to devote to it.

    Feedback from the beta group was that the tool was far too slow, which a new API won't fix anyway, and I had too many "how do I install PEAR" questions, followed by hostility when I couldn't walk 'em through that.

    At this point I don't know if we'll release anything at all. It's not worth the aggravation.

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    OK fair enough, i know loads of people who have had problems installing pear so I know what you mean by aggravation.

    Anything else you reccomend in its place?

    Going back to my points to the sitepoint team, im not sure how you would get around this, but when proof reading a new book, maybe taking a long look at any tools that are suggested. If that tool may not be around or is in beta, then maybe mention something of the sort in the book(in a reference) or decide if it should go in or not. Im no publisher, but its just a thought.
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    Don't assume we didn't have that conversation... SitePoint's diligence and attention to detail are so far beyond any publisher I've ever dealt with, it's not even funny... all the way down to questioning dates from the search engine history section.

    In terms of alternatives, to extract search terms from web pages, KeywordDiscovery.com has a great tool that spiders pages and returns a list of candidate search terms. They use the search count from their database to filter out "real" search terms from all the garbage, it's actually far more effective than the analysis techniques of STAT.


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