I'm in love...with Fusebox

**ses5909** · Jun 21, 2005, 09:28

I've been coding php for a few years now and have just recently discovered the Fusebox methodology. It was actually kind of forced on me for a recent project i've been working on, but now that I understand it, I'm a convert and plan on doing all of my future apps using it.

so i'm just wondering... does anyone else feel this way?

**metacube** · Jun 21, 2005, 09:55

Fusebox methodology?
What exactly is that? Do you have any interesting links?

**astericks** · Jun 21, 2005, 10:01

might wanna check this one out: http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=263897

edit: what's the learing/comprehension curve for fusebox? I've been wanting to adopt a framework lately...there are too many to go through an I have not much time really.

**ses5909** · Jun 21, 2005, 10:19

You can check out www.fusebox.org

this is kind of an old link but it helped me get started and explained it to me really well. http://www.devshed.com/c/a/PHP/Scrat...th-PHP-Fusebox

Id say the learning curve is about a day or two at most. for me it didn't make sense until i actually started playing with it.

**33degrees** · Jun 21, 2005, 11:16

hum, just checked out the code; it seems to be a procedural (read, non-OOP) MVC framework. What is it about fusebox that you like?

**ses5909** · Jun 21, 2005, 11:45

From what ive learned Fusebox allows an OO approach although it doesn't mandate it. I've implemented a couple things using it so far.

For me the great thing about it is the way it is organized just makes sense. Its kind of hard to explain i guess. I've never been a huge fan of php as my background is in java and .net. but, using this methodology has changed the way i look at it. I'm sure there is a lot im missing here. But for waht its worth..i like it.

**BerislavLopac** · Jun 21, 2005, 11:58

If I remember correctly, Fusebox has basically a FrontController approach with switch statements for various "circuits", i.e. Views.

**33degrees** · Jun 21, 2005, 12:32

Originally Posted by ses5909

From what ive learned Fusebox allows an OO approach although it doesn't mandate it. I've implemented a couple things using it so far.

I just meant that the fusebox code itself isn't object oriented, which is the kind of thing that gives me a headache to look at.

**astericks** · Jun 21, 2005, 13:00

if it aint OO, it aint right (in my books).

I dont think I'm gonna even consider it. Dont get me wrong, it's just a personal preference.

**Tanus** · Jun 21, 2005, 16:50

Originally Posted by astericks

if it aint OO, it aint right (in my books).

I dont think I'm gonna even consider it. Dont get me wrong, it's just a personal preference.

Don't forget that C is procedural, is still one of the most widely used languages, and probably has a role in most applications you use today. Is that not right?

**Afro Boy** · Jun 21, 2005, 17:33

Fusebox was originaly coded for Cold Fusion, hence the more procedural approach.

**b1ind** · Jun 21, 2005, 18:14

Well, since we're on a bit of a tangent, many OOP principles can be applied without language specific support, eg: classes and inheritance. There is a good deal of c code to support this.

**coo_t2** · Jun 21, 2005, 18:23

Originally Posted by ses5909

I've never been a hug fan of php as my background is in java and .net. but, using this methodology has changed the way i look at it.

If you come from the Java world then you should check out Mojavi.

--ed

**DougBTX** · Jun 21, 2005, 19:34

Originally Posted by ses5909

For me the great thing about it is the way it is organized just makes sense. Its kind of hard to explain i guess.

That's probably the most important criteria for picking a framework to use. Assumes you have the choice though

Douglas

**astericks** · Jun 21, 2005, 19:48

Originally Posted by Tanus

Don't forget that C is procedural, is still one of the most widely used languages, and probably has a role in most applications you use today. Is that not right?

From your analogy, Fusebox is thus as powerful as C then? Is that not right?

As I said, personal preference. I did not say it was bad.

**Galo** · Jun 22, 2005, 02:45

Originally Posted by astericks

if it aint OO, it aint right (in my books).
I dont think I'm gonna even consider it. Dont get me wrong, it's just a personal preference.

That must be the most rediculess comment i have seen posted on this forum.
andaah.... choose better books then..

However Fusebox looks cool but requires Macromedia's Coldfusion which requires a compiler and a server to work with, and they are not for free, so for a business trying to find a comprehensive Framework this wouls cost me mony instead of make me mony.

**BerislavLopac** · Jun 22, 2005, 04:12

Originally Posted by Galo

However Fusebox looks cool but requires Macromedia's Coldfusion which requires a compiler and a server to work with, and they are not for free, so for a business trying to find a comprehensive Framework this wouls cost me mony instead of make me mony.

There are implementations of Fusebox for various languages, including PHP. Last I saw the site, Fusebox version 2 (or something like that) just came out, with support for OO approach, but I don't think anyone made a PHP OO implementation of that. I might be mistaken, though.

Edit: Sorry, it's Fusebox 4, not 2. But it seems that there is only a PHP implementation for FB3.

Edit 2: And this page is completely dedicated for using PHP with Fusebox: www.bombusbee.com. It seems there is a BF4PHP project under way.

**ses5909** · Jun 22, 2005, 04:25

Fusebox was originally created for ColdFusion but I guess due to poular demand they wrote the framework in php. There isn't any additional cost that I'm aware of.

**astericks** · Jun 22, 2005, 13:08

Originally Posted by Galo

That must be the most rediculess comment i have seen posted on this forum.
andaah.... choose better books then..

Do people even care to read [and in your case, spell] properly anymore? It's a personal preference for crying out loud.

I knew me posting that would ruffle some feathers [because of its inaccuracy], but jeez...chill buddy.

There are better ways of voicing your disagreement...see the post by Tanus above.

**auricle** · Jun 22, 2005, 13:22

Last time I checked, English was not an official language in Holland.

Besides. computer programmers are the worst spellers and grammarians around. Funny about that, considering their scripts would die if they made such mistakes in them.

**cholmon** · Jun 23, 2005, 02:57

Originally Posted by auricle

Funny about that, considering their scripts would die if they made such mistakes in them.

If only the forums would give runtime errors for all of our mispellings

**PHPCamp.com** · Jun 23, 2005, 07:17

I checked out some fusebox examples and it's definitely modeled after MS's ASP, VB, etc. I went through my VB phase in the mid-1990's and luckily I came out of it sane. I personally don't like the syntax.

**sid egg** · Jun 23, 2005, 19:26

I'm in love...with Sara.

**Galo** · Jun 23, 2005, 20:53

Originally Posted by astericks

Do people even care to read [and in your case, spell] properly anymore? It's a personal preference for crying out loud.

I knew me posting that would ruffle some feathers [because of its inaccuracy], but jeez...chill buddy.

There are better ways of voicing your disagreement...see the post by Tanus above.

Alright alright, i though my english was pretty good for a Dutchy

Anyway sorry if i offended you.

SMile m8

Cheers,
Galo

**sid egg** · Jun 23, 2005, 20:56

Originally Posted by Galo

m8

Flamed for spelling, apologizes, and says "m8"

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