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    Using Headers

    looking into headers, I found the h1 was most important for Google.

    I am wondering: what can put in a header?
    Is the following ok for Google?

    <h1 align="center"><b><FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#cccccc" size="1">| </FONT><FONT size="1"><A

    href="http://dennisdesign.com">home</A> </FONT><FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#cccccc" size="1">|</FONT><FONT

    size="1"><A href="http://dennisdesign.com/about">About</A> </FONT><FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#cccccc"

    size="1">|</FONT><FONT size="1"> <A href="http://dennisdesign.com/host" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Hosting</A> </FONT><FONT

    face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#cccccc" size="1">|</FONT><FONT color="#cccccc" size="1"> </FONT><FONT size="1"><A

    href="http://dennisdesign.com/design" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">design</A> </FONT><FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"

    color="#cccccc" size="1">|</FONT><FONT size="1"> <A href="http://dennisdesign.com/gallery">Portfolio</A> </FONT><FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#cccccc" size="1">|</FONT><FONT size="1"> <A href="http://dennisdesign.com/new">News</A> </FONT><FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#cccccc" size="1">|</FONT>
    <HR noShade align="center" width="80%" color="#903C3C" SIZE="1"></h1>
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    No, that's not OK.

    A header is only for the top-level heading of your page. It's like a <title> that renders on-page.

    That's what an <h1> is. Using it improperly to affect Search Engine rankings is spam.

    Besides, you're really just diluting its effect like that. Just have an <h1> for each page on your site, and put a relevant, unique title in it on each page.

    HTML Code:
    <h1>Title of this page</h1>
     
     <p>Some content</p>
     
     <h2>Subheading</h2>
     
     <p>Some content under the Subheading.</p>
    On their own, <h1>s render really really large. Use CSS to make them smaller.

    I notice also that you're using <FONT> a lot. You should look into learning CSS - it'll save you much time in the long run. <font> has been deprecated from HTML for a while now.
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    thanks man, I really suck at SEO
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    I got another question for you.

    I looked at your sites and it appeared that you had no h1's, but when I looked at the source file it showed otherwise.

    How did you get your h1's so small?
    Because that's been my biggest issue is that I didn't want to put some giant text on my screen.
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    You can use css to fix that.
    The css will be something like

    h1 {
    font-size:15px;
    }

    Or something :P
    Goodluck!
    - Alexander Kinnunen

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    Header tags can be styled with CSS to make them blend into a page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thyrium
    I got another question for you.

    I looked at your sites and it appeared that you had no h1's, but when I looked at the source file it showed otherwise.

    How did you get your h1's so small?
    Because that's been my biggest issue is that I didn't want to put some giant text on my screen.
    I strongly suggest you look into learning CSS. Using an external CSS file to control styles is a much better way to manage the design of your site efficiently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatnewt
    I strongly suggest you look into learning CSS. Using an external CSS file to control styles is a much better way to manage the design of your site efficiently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatnewt
    I strongly suggest you look into learning CSS. Using an external CSS file to control styles is a much better way to manage the design of your site efficiently.
    Okay, I'm hooked up with CSS, but this header thing puts me in a very interesting position. I hope this makes sense:

    My header is a series of images. So no h1's there.
    Then I have my links. (part I tried to add h1 to)
    Nav bar.
    And then my content.


    [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[HEADER]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]
    link linklink link link link link link link link
    ---------------NAV BAR-------------
    ~~~{Content from php include}~~~



    Would it make sense to add an h1 to my php template so that the title of my content would be in an h1?

    Siince I update regularly, my h1's would constantly change. I don't know how Google feels about that. Hell, I don't even know if this is a good idea or not. I'm just trying to figure out where to put my h1's.
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    Constant change is a good thing - Google loves new content.

    Right above your main block of content is traditionally the best place for an H1 tag. H2, H3 tags, etc. should be used (within reason) throughout your page.
    -- Jeremy Maddock
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    define: "within reason".

    Again, I don't have any room above my content block.
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    If your headers look like regular text and don't stand out then it's more likely spam then reasonable

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    well, they are going to be the topic titles for the content posted... Should I use an h2 or would that not make any difference?
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    The Hx you use isn't so important if you're going to style them (might as well use H1 in that case) just as long as they clearly are headers. Making them blend in as regular text is just uncool.


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