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    New site in subdirectory better than new domain

    This is probably amateurish and obvious but I was surprised. I created a new 'site' but under an existing domain that was already getting pretty good traffic. After only a few days the new site including individual pages came up #1 in Google or Yahoo searching with 2 words. I guess because the pages are crawled regularly.

    Seems like it might be OK to group new smaller sites under a common domain under some circumstances. Cheaper and less hassles too.

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    I dont see a problem really, as long as the sites are related. Probably not the best thing to do if the sites are completely different.

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    If you want to create a lot of smaller sites, it might be more cost-effective to put them all on one domain, and use sub-domains. The only major drawback would be that you won't get as much PR benefit from linking them together.
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    None of my sites are commercial, just a few personal publications. Works pretty good for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WealthStream
    The only major drawback would be that you won't get as much PR benefit from linking them together.
    There is no drawback. The PR will be exactly the same no matter where you put the pages. It makes no difference at all.

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    Ohhhh, this is pretty interesting.
    My site has three quite different parts, though I tied them together by means of the name: Health-Boundaries-Bite...

    I put different parts into different folders.

    How is the subdirectory thing different?
    and how did you do it?

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    Also, can you submit each "subdirectory" to directories????

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    I have a simple main directory name with more descriptive subdirectory names or html files on my HD. I upload the same structure to the server.

    axiom\
    axiom\unethical\index.html

    www.axiom.ws
    www.axiom.ws/unethical/

    It has been ok for search engines - but not for submission to the larger search directories. Acceptable for Zeal.

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    Okay --
    (I like your site and your ideas)

    okay, I don't get it...
    The AXIOM page... that's all there is to it? you can't click on anything? or go anyplace?

    why do you want a page like that?
    how does it function for you, is what I mean.

    And, does it make any difference that your back slashes are going different directions? in your post, they go one way the first time you write them, and the other way the second time....

    (I see your White Rock isn't by Los Alamos )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Consider-This
    Also, can you submit each "subdirectory" to directories????
    I dont think you have to, as they get crawled anyway (just submit your "top" level would be fine I think )
    - Alexander Kinnunen

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    Smile

    The www.axiom.ws main page is pretty well for nothing but not necessarily.
    The \ are in the HD directory files and / are in the server directory.

    The only point I was making was that when one of the pages is getting decent traffic any new pages seem to become searchable quickly. When I first uploaded www.axiom.ws/unethical/ in a few days it came up with a good ranking on Google. Maybe that directory arrangement isn't necessary, as FaraO suggests they get crawled anyway. But it is cheap and easy to maintain with no new domains.

    (You have me a bit concerned about my fingernails.)

    Cheers, Ken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fara0^
    I dont think you have to, as they get crawled anyway (just submit your "top" level would be fine I think )
    They get crawled, true. But the directory thing works when someone goes to that directory looking for something in particular. Like in my case they might be interested in Depression and find my site under that heading.

    But it would be great if I could also submit the IRS part of my site under "Politics" or "government" or "torture...." (the last was my experience)

    So too, the Pro Se part of my site.

    Then people using a directory to find those kinds of things would find my listing...

    Do I understand directories right????

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    Hi KennyM,
    You clearly know a great deal more about web things than I do.

    If you have ridges on your nails, or if you are losing your moons, then if you also have some of the other symptoms, I would take some action.

    The problem with mind oriented things, is that we are so familiar with how our minds work that we tend to accept a lot of deterioration... laughing it off -- "Old Timers"

    But ... if someone takes antacids, just for example, they could be dangerously short of B12... only it is such a slow downhill thing that doctors can tell you your heart is fine, etc... and never pay any attention to B12 because the "important" things are fine....

    I just cut off two additional paragraphs I wrote. I have to stop myself.

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    Hi Consider-This

    Sounds ok to me.
    I am not very knowledgeble on web design, and have only used Netcape Composer and now MS Word for my last efforts. Nothing fancy. I think my post is probably common knowledge, techie-wise.

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    Well, this subdirectory thing is pretty cool.

    It took me days to figure it out.
    By which I mean asking techs different questions and being generally befuddled.

    One really surprising thing, is that my images were looking a bit see-through, but when I have a new subdomain and use the very same images, no holes.

    I have absolutely NO IDEA how than can happen, but it's nice.

    I can't remember, but did you have your subdirectory opening to a blue page that looked sort of internal?

    I had that, too. That took a couple serious days to come to grips with.

    But basically, if I made a subdirectory file at hosting before I make my subdirectory, then when I publish to web, the files go into it... and it works REAL smoothly.

    I was so grateful to you for posting this topic.
    and still am.

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    Yes Karen and I'm quite happy with this layout for my low key, low cost sites/pages.

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    Well, I had no idea.
    So I'm really glad you described it.

    I love it, too.



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