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    2 domain names with identical content

    Hey all,

    I have 2 different domains that sell very similar products, i find it very time consuming to come up with different content for each site given that they are so similar.

    If both sites were identical, would the search engines penalize one or both of them for being identical?
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    not 100% sure, but you may got penalty if you will just copy one site to the another
    (all texts and layout wil be the same).

    You may make different layouts + add some elements which make your sites different. (for example if your site show featured products set different featured products at the your sites) etc.

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    does msn penalize duplicates?
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    I haven't heared about such issues.
    But who care on MSN?

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    duplicate content always gets penalized.. sooner or later.

    watch out!

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    yes, it will get penalized if it's a CLONE ... if it's not 100% identical then it might slip through, but don't expect it to last long.

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    well according to me duplicate content get penalized. its 100 % true.

    a site copied my 1 page content. before that i was on first page for a keyword.

    and when that sites page get index his site goes up and my page was no more in the listing , I dont know why google penalized me , not that site

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    That sucks... Anyone know of a program that restructures sentances and text? Its just so time consuming having to write everything twice!!!
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    There's more duplicate content issues than just having it on two domains. As explained in the Search Engine Marketing Kit, having content available through http://site.com and http://www.site.com is duplicate - Add in printer friendly versions of content, text only versions of pages, email this page to a friend version, feedback forms that automatically include the referring URL on the page, etc. etc. etc. can all cause problems. Dan Thies does a much better job explaining it than I can (and how to solve it) - but it's definitely something to keep a close eye out on.

    Possible solution to your problem might be to use some spider control strategies (also covered in the kit) to prevent SE spiders from accessing one version of the content.
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    Thanks for the reply Matt, i was just about to also ask about the fact that i have .com and .com.au domain names with identical content (and i mean IDENTICAL). Both have been up for at least half a year. The .com.au is where i focus all my SEO on, and i rank fairly well in most of the search engines. The .com is nowhere to be seen in any search engines but i do not seem to be penalized for it (and the search engines do know about it).

    Anyone have proof of being penalized for such? It would seem silly because alot of large corporations have global sites with close to identical content on heaps of different domains and subdomains.
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    Why not just have 1 website? Your secondary domain could just be forwarded to your primary domain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StudioWorks
    duplicate content always gets penalized.. sooner or later.

    watch out!
    I agree, it's just a question of time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zsasz24
    Why not just have 1 website? Your secondary domain could just be forwarded to your primary domain.

    I hadnt thought of that... If people link to the secondary domain, which is forwarded to my primary, will the links be counted as links to my primary site?
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    No, I don't think they would.

    Keep concentrating on getting back links to your primary domain .com.au as you are just now.

    If you read the guidelines here:

    http://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html

    it does say "Don't create multiple pages, subdomains, or domains with substantially duplicate content."

    Hope that helps!

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    humm backlinks make much effect.

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    Duplicate content is to detect, however in most cases we simply only display or rank the result with the highest rank utilizing other factors such as incoming links.

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    What about two domain names pointing to the same site? Such as when "www.blahblah.com" and "www.blahblahSTUFF.com" both take you to the same site. Do search engines dislike this?
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by klikmaker
    What about two domain names pointing to the same site? Such as when "www.blahblah.com" and "www.blahblahSTUFF.com" both take you to the same site. Do search engines dislike this?
    Thanks
    depends how it's done. Having a 301 Server redirect from one domain, to the website on another domain is fine.

    Having both domains active so that they resolve to the same site is bad. If you can get to your pages on www.firstdomain.com/aboutus.html and www.seconddomain.co./aboutus.html then it's dupe content.

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    <<<<<<<<<<<<
    Having both domains active so that they resolve to the same site is bad. If you can get to your pages on www.firstdomain.com/aboutus.html and www.seconddomain.co./aboutus.html then it's dupe content.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>

    Thanks, exactly what I needed to know.

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    You all seem so sure about this, but my experience goes 100% against what you're saying. A main competitor of my website owns -- for now lets call it -- KeyWords.com as well as Key-Words.com. Not only do they have IDENTICAL everything, but they're both on the first page on Google for "Key Words." In addition, somehow Google is listing another page from KeyWords.com as a separate entry, the third being the first link on the second page. I don't see any penalty, and it's especially frustrating considering I'm sitting in the middle of the second page. Any thoughts?


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