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    See your rankings while in the sandbox?

    http://roberttaft.com/

    anyone have any idea what this tool is showing? they claim it's your sites rankings while in the sandbox, but i don't know if i agree w/that.

    maybe it's showing the SERPs w/out some sort of Google Filter? perhaps w/out the link age filter? who knows?

    any ideas?

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    Try it. All it does is add a whole bunch of keywords that Google "ignores" to it, and that changes the rankings. It does put my sites ranked much MUCH higher, but that could be something different. I don't think this is something you should put too much weight on, personally.

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    i'm not putting much weight on it, just wondering what the heck it's showing.

    it put's all of my sites MUCH MUCH higher also...

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    Well it links to Google.com, so it's not like it's just making stuff up. After looking one more time, it's obvious that all it does is add words like "at", "in", "the", etc. that are "common" words that Google supposedly "ignores".

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    it looks an awful lot like the results i see in MSN ..... weird

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    It's kinda BS. If I search for "Nathan", I show up 15th (in Google.com I show up not top 1,000, so), but nathan.com and nathan.fr (the two top in Google.com) aren't even close to the top. Plus it shows a page from cia.gov, and another one from imdb.com. Because it has so many extra useless words it's detecting, it's wrong.

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    Nice site... Hopefully this is a true indication.. My "sandboxed" sites rank extremely well.. they always have using the other method of negative search words (i.e. keyword -lsdfj -asdfas -sadfasdf -sadfds...).

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    thats great
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    my site is not in sandbox but when i search regular my sites comes on 121th and when i search "without sandbox " then imy site on 2 why ?
    thats the site i search in http://roberttaft.com/
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    inverse, that's what we are trying to figure out... it's obviously not a 'sandbox' filter, it's some other sort of filter.. my sites aren't in the sandbox either, but they still rank much higher w/that tool.

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    It's because not all sites use the words "at", "in", "the", etc.. Google (despite saynig they ignore those words) obviously does count them to some degree (this has been proven otherwise, searching "nathan wong" and "nathan the wong" gives different results). Basically all it does is do the search with all the extra "ignored" words, so you get different results.

    According to the general definition of "sandbox", it only applies to keywords that are competitive. "Nathan at the in a on" is not a competitive keyword compared to "Nathan", and therefore according to the general definition, that keyword wouldn't be affected by this "sandbox".

    That said, if your site is out of the "sandbox", then your rankings will flectuate strictly because your site uses more or less of those "ignored" words. Pretty simple.

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    good explanation!

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    didnt got what u said
    when i search regular my sites comes on 41st now and when i search "without sandbox " then imy site on 2 so am going in right direction or not ?
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    As I pointed out above, this isn't "viewing your site out of the sandbox", it's merely different results. Nothing more to it. You shouldn't use it as a referance point, really. It's completely different.

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    Interesting and the results seem to be correlated with MSN's search.

    Perhaps MSN is simply a Google engine in it's infancy.

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    I would imagine that the reason it's similar to MSN is because it's using more onsite SEO (due to the extra words), which is all MSN looks at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by someonewhois
    I would imagine that the reason it's similar to MSN is because it's using more onsite SEO (due to the extra words), which is all MSN looks at.
    just what I was about to say. This looks like on-page factor results to me.

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