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    Quote Originally Posted by Coinnach
    Search my reg for this (XP SP2) and couldn't find it - it is a key that needs to be created

    MAY be right there ....... this is one place I a tad weak on (networking and what not)

    Didn't you leave out CurrentControlSet?
    Yea my BAD

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    Here's a follow-up from the M$ newsgroup on creating a new key. It's still a little much for me to take in but might make sense to someone here:
    Creating the values is similar to changing them from registry security and
    integrity point of view so go ahead. R-click in the right pane, choose right
    value type and assign name and data. At any time you can edit typos or
    delete new value at all. Windows won't know anything about the new data
    until it would directly query this particular key. It's a good practice
    always backup the keys (export it) before edit if it becomes complicated,
    e.g. when many values should be created in bulk, and import the .reg file
    back in case of mess. It's always worth to document any significant changes.
    Sounds pretty scary to me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by earther
    Thanks for your input. Hardware issues are a bit daunting for me. I don't even know what a loopback address is or where to find it but am doing some searches right now. Maybe you could point me in the right direction?

    The modem and onboard LAN are two separate entities and I'm haven't a clue about sharing issues. I'll take a look but I'm not sure I'd know if it was there since most of this is new territory for me.
    The loopback address is an IP Address that refers back to your local interface. It's reserved in the 127.0.0.0 block. The address is 127.0.0.1. While connected through your dialup, disable your NIC, open a command prompt and type "ping 127.0.0.1". If it returns destination unreachable, then the loopback is tied to the NIC, and you will need to install the Loopback Adapter to resolve that issue.

    As for sharing issues/conflicts, flip through the properties for both connections and verify that there are no rogue boxes checked (things that don't look like they should be).

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    Thanks, Viflux. I'll give that a try later.

    In the meantime . . . I checked in my System Event Viewer and found that the attached two errors occur every time my compi comes out of hibernation or reboots. There is also a Dhcp warning that occurs every so often saying that the network address is different from the IP address. Don't know why I didn't think to look there earlier. Any thoughts?
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    Earther, did you create the key mentioned above DisableDHCPMediaSense?
    Coinnach

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    Not yet. I'm trying to get up the courage to muck around in the registry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by earther
    Not yet. I'm trying to get up the courage to muck around in the registry.
    Well you can setup the remote registry service and Ill come in and play!

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    It's not that hard, just backup the registry before hand and step through creating it. If not DC is right (if you trust him enough) let him do it for you. Usually anyone who posts a registry fix, details the steps on how to do it, did the person who told you about DisableDHCPMediaSense do that?? If not I can type one up for you
    Coinnach

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    All of you are being very helpful. I really need to get over my registry phobia so want to do it myself but Coinnach it would be helpful if you could type it up for me.

    I also need to bone up on backing up the registry etc. Or would creating an Acronis image prior to adding the key be sufficient backup? Or would it be a good idea to do both?

    I have a story to tell about my encouter today with a MS 'Research Engineer' but that will have to wait till later. Right now it's back out to the garden.

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    Earther, here it is read through first and if you have any questions post

    1. Start>Run>Regedit

    2. Click on File>Export

    3. Select a location and filename, Export Range should be ALL - select Save

    4. Next navigate to HKey_Local_Machine\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters

    5. Right click Parameters folder in left pane and select New>Key

    6. Call the Key - DisableDHCPMediaSense

    7. A new folder called DisableDHCPMediaSense will be created under Parameters

    8. Right click the folder DisableDHCPMediaSense and select New>DWord Value

    9. Double click on the DWord entry under DisableDHCPMediaSense and give a value of 1

    10 Click ok and exit the registry

    11. Installing Microsoft Loopback Adapter

    Go to the Add Hardware control panel

    Click Next on the first wizard screen

    When asked if the hardware is connected, select Yes and click Next

    In the list of installed hardware, scroll to the bottom and select Add a new hardware device and click Next

    Choose the option titled Install the hardware that I manually select from a list (Advanced) and click Next

    In the list of common hardware types, select Network adapters and click Next

    In the list of manufacturers, select Microsoft. Then in the list of network adapters, select Microsoft Loopback Adapter and click Next

    Click Next one more time to install the Microsoft Loopback Adapter and then press Finis

    Now that you have installed the Microsoft Loopback Adapter, you need to configure an IP address for it.

    Configuring Microsoft Loopback Adapter

    Go to the Network Connections control panel

    Locate the LAN or High-Speed Internet connection that has a Device name of Microsoft Loopback Adapter, right-click on it and choose Properties

    Select the Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) item and click Properties

    Select the option to Use the following IP address and enter 127.0.0.1 for the IP address.

    This will cause a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 to appear

    Click OK to accept the changes and Close to exit the Properties dialog

    Now you can disable your current LAN connection and enable your Microsoft Loopback Adapter connection by right-clicking on each connection in the Network Connections control panel and choosing Enable or Disable.

    Hope this works
    Coinnach

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    Wow Coinnach . . . that's super! Rep on the way soon. Ha, ha!

    Before I do this though I have two questions:

    1. Will the DisableDHCPMediaSense key affect any other icons/functions? I don't want the 'cure' to be worse than the annoyance.

    2. I thought that the Loopback Adaptor thingie would only be a fall-back if DisableDHCPMediaSense didn't work. True? Or do I need to do both?

    I'm going to kick back for a while and then tackle this. [ earther breaks into a cold sweat even thinking about it! LOL!! ]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viflux
    The loopback address is an IP Address that refers back to your local interface. It's reserved in the 127.0.0.0 block. The address is 127.0.0.1. While connected through your dialup, disable your NIC, open a command prompt and type "ping 127.0.0.1". If it returns destination unreachable, then the loopback is tied to the NIC, and you will need to install the Loopback Adapter to resolve that issue.
    I finally got around to doing this and the ping went through. I'll attach the results. I guess that means I don't need to do the loopback adapter thing?
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    All right earther!

    If nothing else we've cured your reg phobia! (BTW .. dont get too cocky!) ... and all this happened while I was out on a house call! :'(

    The registry can be a dangerous place BUT, time and PATIENCE, and knowing what you are about to delete (or add) means no suprises!

    Still waiting for the attachment to get approved ... will check back then.

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    Well, here's a picture of the key that I created. If I indeed did it correctly, it didn't change the behavior of the reappearing icon in the sys tray.
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    Yeah that New Value #1 Key name isnt gonna cut it .... I gotta go back & read the instuctions myself now!

    Hang on .......... BRB!

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    earther, my bad I have done a bit more digging and the disableDHCPMediaSense should be a DWord Entry under Parameters not a folder under parameters. Do you undersand what I mean? Just pm me if you have any questions since I am back online now.

    Also to help with your concerns about disabling it check this out - it is from the W2K Resource kit but it is the same key
    http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d...ntry/94173.asp
    Coinnach

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    sorry coin but I think you missread ... it should be a KEY under paramaters:

    edit registry:

    HKLM\SYSTEM\CCS\Services\Tcpip\Parameters, value DisableDHCPMediaSense,
    value type: REG_DWORD, data 1. If set to 1, the DHCP client ignores Media
    Sense events from the interface.

    You can install MS Loopback Adapter and disable physical NIC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dc dalton
    Yeah that New Value #1 Key name isnt gonna cut it .... I gotta go back & read the instuctions myself now!

    Hang on .......... BRB!
    I'm looking at these instructions again. Clicking in the right pane is different from what Coinnach wrote in his instructions. Maybe there shouldn't be a folder, just a key?
    Creating the values is similar to changing them from registry security and
    integrity point of view so go ahead. R-click in the right pane, choose right
    value type and assign name and data. At any time you can edit typos or
    delete new value at all. Windows won't know anything about the new data
    until it would directly query this particular key. It's a good practice
    always backup the keys (export it) before edit if it becomes complicated,
    e.g. when many values should be created in bulk, and import the .reg file
    back in case of mess. It's always worth to document any significant changes.

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    Its a key under Paramaters CALLED DisableDHCPMediaSense (D_WORD) with a value of one ... should look like this:


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    Yeah DC, you are right re-posted.. Earther you ok with what to do?
    Coinnach

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    LOL! Great minds!!!

    So I should delete the folder and create a new key in the parameters root?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coinnach
    Yeah DC, you are right re-posted.. Earther you ok with what to do?
    I think I've got it. I'll give it a whirl and get right back.

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    What can I say (embarassed look), at least we got the lad over his fear of doing a little work in the registry. Anyway hopefully earther this will sort it out - DC's screenshot is perfect, see my post above with the MS link to explain what disableDHCPMediaSense does. Post and let us know how it works out
    Coinnach

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    Yeah delete that folder , right click on the Parameters folder and THEN create the D_WORD key with that name, double click it and set it to 1 ...... bango your done..

    Thats it NO MORE HOUSECALLS while you guys are playing

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    Why?
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