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    @russellg RussellG's Avatar
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    I envy anyone that had any sort of access to the www before it became so commercialised. Sure, the internet is great now, but surely it must have been great back then as well(?).
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    Originally posted by RussellG
    I envy anyone that had any sort of access to the www before it became so commercialised. Sure, the internet is great now, but surely it must have been great back then as well(?).
    Ah, but if only you could have seen Internet before the www came along...
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    yeah...

    - grey backgrounds
    - tables with border="5"
    - animated GIFS galore
    - blue links, purple visited links and red active links (cause no one knew how to change the colors)
    - Times New Roman
    - Lots of "THis is my web page" crap

    man...those were the good old days...

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    @russellg RussellG's Avatar
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    LOL!
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    One website at a time mmj's Avatar
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    Yes.

    "Welcome to my web page. Hope you enjoy your stay. You are the [ 3 ] th person to visit this page."

    And the page only has a picture of that person, a counter and one of the person's favorite links.

    The same thing exists today though. That is a characteristic of the web, and other protocols didn't have that problem (though they had other problems).

    By the way, tables and animated GIFs, as well as JPEGs, were a later invention.
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    Originally posted by mmj
    PS, does anybody know of a site that offers gopher, still? Our web browsers all still support it... perhaps we could relive old times.
    You'll like this site:

    http://www.cochran.com/start/guide/gopher.html
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    One website at a time mmj's Avatar
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    Thanks, but I couldn't visit the gopher links.

    I just realised that my firewall has no gopher proxy! D'oh! Silly me.

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    One website at a time mmj's Avatar
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    Originally posted by Brian Asselin
    First website?
    http://www.w3.org/Talks/C5_17_May_91.html
    Cool! I like this section of the "Questions" section (a faq, in other words):

    If everyone can make any links he wants, doesn't the whole thing become a hopeless mess? (JR)
    Not necessarily. To make a link from a document, you need write access to that document. Each person has responsibility for a small area of the total web of documents. she can make that as tidy (or as muddled) as he can his desk or his brain. (-TBL)
    (on the proposal for a world wide web)

    PS here is an earlier page from the same series

    http://www.w3.org/Talks/Title.html

    What is HyperText
    Hypertext is text which is not constrained to be linear.
    Hypertext is text which contains links to other texts. The term was coined by Ted Nelson around 1965 (see History ).

    HyperMedia is a term used for hypertext which is not constrained to be text: it can include graphics, video and sound , for example. Apparently Ted Nelson was the first to use this term too.

    Hypertext and HyperMedia are concepts, not products.

    See also:

    - A list of terms used in hypertext litterature.
    - Conferences
    - Commercial (and academic) products
    - A newsgroup on hypertext, "alt.hypertext" .
    - WorldWideWeb is a project which uses hypertext concepts.
    - Standards .
    (February 1991)

    This relates heavily to an essay I did recently for cinema studies on hypertext theory.

    I like the way the w3c called the project "WorldWideWeb" - as a catchphrase. I like the way they still call themselves the WorldWideWeb Consortium even though the web is now fully with us, and they are no longer planning it.
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    Originally posted by creole

    - blue links, purple visited links and red active links (cause no one knew how to change the colors)
    Heh, how about only blue links because support for visited links wasn't around yet. I remember when visited links first popped up, I thought it was the greatest thing.
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    One website at a time mmj's Avatar
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    Well, that's luxury. When I was a kid we had the VIC20 and I don't recall anyone complaining...
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    i remember when my parents bought our first computer.. a brand new shiny, Commodore 64.. it was great.. i loved it. and i used to have a cousin who would make games for us all the time.. he made one that was based on teh Alien movie series, it was pretty cool... i wish i still had that computer. i really liked some of the games i had on it..
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