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    Have your say: Rename the Advanced PHP Programming forum

    Hello people,

    For those that have not seen this thread, we welcome your suggestions for renaming this forum. What we need is a name/description that makes the purpose of this forum much clearer.

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    How about... "DON'T POST IN HERE UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S FOR"? ;D

    OOPHP and Application Design sounds okay to me.

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    phew, that's a hard one.
    PHP Code Architecture & Design Best Practices

    Something like that?

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    "Pico, Patterns & Polymorphism"

    Should scare most people off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Proton
    phew, that's a hard one
    It certainly is. Plus, there's no guarantee that people will actually read it and think about where to post

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    PHP Code Architecture & Design Best Practices

    I like that one a lot.

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    I was going to say "PHP Application Architecture", but "PHP Code Architecture & Design Best Practices" also sounds good.

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    Didn't we have a discussion before about changing the name of this advanced forum, and the idea was debunked without any thought?

    Anyways, I think the forum name and it's description should be changed but I'm not going to suggest anything I'll leave it to others to fight it out

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    PHP Design

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    PHP Design: OOP, Patterns, Best Practices
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    How about we make it an invite only forum, haha
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    Hey, how do you display the result set of a MySQL query?

    Just kidding!!!


    Quote Originally Posted by arborint
    PHP Design: OOP, Patterns, Best Practices
    I think this description is right on point. If, as stated before, people actually read it.
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    How about "Your definition of "advanced" is irrelevant, it's ours that matters"?

    As someone mentioned, EVERYONE who posts a question obviously thinks it is advanced -- if it wasn't advanced to them, they wouldn't be asking it, they'd already know. People seem to think that finding a closing bracket is advanced etc..

    As I mentioned in the other thread... the best thing that SP could do for this forum is to show an "Advanced PHP ToS" that they have to click "Accept" to before they post a thread there. I'm pretty sure most people who post good (as in actually "advanced") questions in the advanced PHP forum would be willing to click "Accept" before posting if it meant getting rid of stupid posts. Just my 2c though.

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    PHP Enterprise Application Architecture
    PHP Program Design and Theory

    Can't think of anything else.

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    I'd like to suggest "Object Oriented PHP". I haven't seen a post showing procedural programming that hasn't been: a) Re-stated in OO fashion. b) Moved

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    honestly you need more than one advanced forum..

    I would classify soap, gd, oop, etc as an advanced forum

    and THEN have another forum for:
    frameworks, patterns, application design
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    I think I have seen instances of recursion talked about at length. Procedural code for dispatching has been talked about without being "thrown out". I used to see some nasty regex questions, but these seem confined to the PHP forum now days.

    I think something along the lines of
    PHP Architecture and Design Patterns
    would be suitable
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    Quote Originally Posted by OfficeOfTheLaw
    PHP Program Design and Theory
    I like this one.

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    PHP Program Design and Theory
    I asked this in another thread: what is PHP theory? It sounds nice, but there really is no theory (and theory means formal theory) behind PHP or any of its libraries, frameworks or 'best practices'.

    So based on that argument I think there shouldn't be any "theory" in the new forum name.

    Another thing that I'm not sure about is "design", which is bound to lead to some "how do I make this page design look better" questions.

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    Perhaps we should just change it to "forum147", and then people would have to read the sticky post to figure out what it is about

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweatje
    Perhaps we should just change it to "forum147", and then people would have to read the sticky post to figure out what it is about
    All jokes aside, I think this touches on the heart of the matter, people just don't seem to read the sticky enough as some other people would like.

    If I look at the dates posted and the number of views of both sticky threads 'Where should I post my thread?' and 'Read before you post...' on one hand and the 'Meet the programming team' announcement on the other, I'd think people don't read the sticky threads simply because they (the sticky posts, not the people ) probably don't stand out as much as they should. If I click my 'SP Advanced PHP' bookmark in my browser, I always notice the announcement, the stickies don't really catch my eye.

    Now, I don't know for sure if making the stickies an announcement or visually distinct them from other threads will actually make a difference, but maybe it's worth a try?

    As far as new names go, I'd like to suggest, especially for my dyslectic fellow (wo)man: "Fowlers for breakfast"
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    PHP Code Architecture & Design Best Practices <- like that one aswell.

    Or, "forum147", then you have to read the sticky as sweatje said. And its also a cool name

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    php general help ( 90% of debugging issues and calls for help )
    php foundations (syntax, built in functions, error handling, general security, sessions)
    php & databases (proper practices with databases, security, debugging, and etc)
    php advanced practices ( oop, code structure, regex, patterns, gtk )
    php advanced application designs and frameworks


    or maybe you can only log into this forum by using sql injection and Rasmus Lerdorf as a password,

    ( just kidding )

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    Quote Originally Posted by arborint
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    I like this, however I would drop the word "Design", as there will undoubtedly be people that will interpret this wrong (i.e. as in visually designing their php-based website). Exchange it with maybe Architecture...

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    Hi.

    This is the best PHP forum around. Please don't change anything, as you might break it .

    The number of wrong forum postings are not that bad are they? If you restrict the title then you narrow the topics which would be a real shame. For example I am getting ready to post on managing Sourceforge projects and another on full text engines. Where would they go?

    Advanced PHP actually captures it pretty well. If there was a system where we could quickly move misposts, wouldn't that be better?

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    Upon rethinking this, I really like "Enterprise PHP" (I forget who said it first).

    All the best stuff talked about here is about designing enterprise-level applications or using enterprise development methodologies. I think the name also attracts a certain type of developer and 'scares' off people writing simple scripts. 'Enterprise' is a general enough term that there shouldn't be much confusion and it also doesn't limit the discussions on this forum to OOP or patterns, etc.


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