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    Rename the Advanced PHP Forum (was Suggestion)

    The "advanced php forum" should be renamed to something like "php with OOP" or "object-oriented php". This would be more clear to newbies that believe submitting a form is advanced php, and it would save the mods some time. Anyone agree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by geniusgoalie
    The "advanced php forum" should be renamed to something like "php with OOP" or "object-oriented php". This would be more clear to newbies that believe submitting a form is advanced php, and it would save the mods some time. Anyone agree?
    Yeah. Like missing a curley bracket is "Advanced" in some people's minds.

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    Yeah, I think this is a great idea

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    Like the new avatar Nathan!

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    Is OO the only "advanced" concept being discussed there though?

    I'd be wary of this approach only because there is simple OO and advanced non-OO PHP code. Should a simple object problem be put in the advanced forum just because it's an object? I'd say no personally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vgarcia
    Is OO the only "advanced" concept being discussed there though?
    Nope. I'd say rename the forum PHP Application Design, but I don't really see that cutting down on the people who think they are in the right forum just because they are using PHP

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    Maybe "PHP Help Forum" and "PHP Discussions"? Or "PHP Help" and "PHP Application Design" (I like that one)? I think we need to rename the parent forum in order to make it more obvious.

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    I like the "PHP Application design" idea too

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    I like it also...but I don't think it will change a thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stymiee
    I like it also...but I don't think it will change a thing.
    it probably won't but still... it's a good idea to rename it. I got trapped a few times as a newcomer and it wasn't because of any lack of good will (hopefully). A few people might benefit a better guidance.


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    How about changing the description of the PHP board to something like:

    "PHP has quickly become the Open Source programming language of choice for many developers. Need help with your program? Trying to fix a tricky parse error? Post here! But if you're designing a PHP application of have an OOP question, try our Advanced forum!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleys
    How about changing the description of the PHP board to something like:

    "PHP has quickly become the Open Source programming language of choice for many developers. Need help with your program? Trying to fix a tricky parse error? Post here! But if you're designing a PHP application of have an OOP question, try our Advanced forum!"
    How about a mixture of that and renaming it to "PHP Application design"? That should probably cut down the confusion. As Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuudie said, I posted my first php question in there because I was confused by the meaning of "advanced php". I thought leaving out a semi-colon was advanced!

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    I'm for it.

    And I'm sure most of you read typo, but in my last post, that 'of' should have been an 'or'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleys
    How about changing the description ...
    Unfortunately, people will still ignore it

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    What if we use a Jedi Mind Trick?

    We DO have the Jedi Mind Trick mod for vB installed, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleys
    What if we use a Jedi Mind Trick?

    We DO have the Jedi Mind Trick mod for vB installed, right?
    released with vBulletin 3.0.6. SPF is currently running 3.0.3

    What about an important thread with a title that could be hardly ignored? Like: "Please, post in the Advanced PHP forum only if..." and a list of the requirements and giudes would be available in the thread. The "Google" sticky in the Search Engine forum does quite a good job so maybe that a similar approach could help the PHP forum.


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    ^^ I'm pretty sure we've tried that before duuudie

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    How about when they click new thread in advanced it makes them read the guidelines? Then once they click "Accept" they can post? And it could be showing guidelines once every 5 times, or only once to not be annoying. Or it could even show every time. I think most people who post in the advanced forum would be willing to click "Accept" in return for not having as many non-advanced posts in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vgarcia
    ^^ I'm pretty sure we've tried that before duuudie
    doh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by duuudie
    doh!
    I guess then its not super ahrd to miss

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    Indeed

    The thread title is too soft as far as I'm concerned. Not that I would like to see a "you'll get banned if..." type of thread title but... using the first person ("where should I post my thread") isn't efficient because if members posting in the wrong area were asking themselves this question, there would be no posts in Advanced forum not belonging to the advanced forum. Therefore, at least, the second person should be used: "Where should you post your thread". But that's still too soft. When you want people to understand some given rules and that you want to achieve this this with the help of the language, you have to use a few keywords that will attract attention, even on a an subconscious level. Words such as "only", "do not", "important rules" etc... usually do the trick ("beware" being a bit too aggressive maybe) and they always ring the "authority" bell.

    Well, I can hardly go further in an analysis as I'm used to study the relationship between words and the unconscious only in french (not frenglish). But I guess you got the idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by duuudie
    The thread title is too soft as far as I'm concerned. Not that I would like to see a "you'll get banned if..." type of thread title but... using the first person ("where should I post my thread") isn't efficient because if members posting in the wrong area were asking themselves this question, there would be no posts in Advanced forum not belonging to the advanced forum. Therefore, at least, the second person should be used: "Where should you post your thread". But that's still too soft.
    Let's use third-person! Where should Danny post his thread?


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