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    XML, HTML, and CSS are indeed languages, they just aren't programming languages.

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    well, here I agree with mh8759 and disagree with Shin Ma ( )
    ASP, VB is an excellent language. and with ASP.Net it would be more powerful.

    Well, the three lanaguages I consider as important are :

    ASP.net (before it comes ASP and VB)
    HTML
    & Java Script


    If you are literate with these three languages there is nothing impossible and you would be on your way to make a new

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    XML/XSL
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    ASP

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    I know what ASP is, but what is ASP.NET ?

    Thanks.

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    check this out -

    www.microsoft.com/net/

    This is MS official site on .NET architecture. You may also search for other sites that deal with this platform.

    Another very good resource on ASP.NET is gotdotnet.com.

    Marko

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    thanks Marko,

    I will be having a look at those this weekend.

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    Well, a language used by millions users worldwide isn't necessary a good one.

    Add the fact that VBScript only runs on Windows platform, and that despite what MS says, their marketshare in the server market is declining, and you'll have fairly good reasons to convert to portable languages.
    Or at least code in something other than VB if you want to stick to ASP.

    By the way my comments about VBScript were originately focused on the client-side VBScript, that was still used 1 or 2 years ago but is now just forgotten (and that's better like that).
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    well, I've been using VBScript only for my ASP pages, but i'm going to use C# with ASP.NET because i'm very familiar with C++. I would have used JScript instead of VBScript now but most of the tutorials and examples come in VBScript and that's why I've been using this one.
    But as I said, C# is about to change most of things, so I think it's very useful to learn this programming language.

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    I think that people forget the fact that it doesn't matter if VBScript only runs on Windows. Sure it matters if you are writing a piece of software to run directly on the computer, but for web design it make no difference since it is processed by the server. Any web server set up to parse asp pages can run any vbscript code that is in the pages. It is really not a valid point when you are talking about designing web pages.
    Think beyond what is common...
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    Okay, just to add to this little discussion. I would have to say, it would depend in what you want to do with the knowledge that you gain from learning these languages. If you wish to go into the corporate world and work for a large company developing their intranet/internet websites then you need to learn the following: XHTML, SQL, XML, JSP.

    However, if you wish to go freelance and do work for small companies then learn the following: XHTML, SQL, ColdFusion/ASP/PHP (take your pick)

    If you just want to create a personal website that includes some database scripting then learn XHTML, MySQL, and PHP.

    On the other hand if you have absolutely no programming experience at all, then learn ColdFusion first. It is the easiest to learn and also the fastest to develope websites in bar none.
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    1. (X)(HT)ML
    2. Java (Good for everything - Javascript, JSP etc.)
    3. SQL
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    Learning XHTML is by no means whatsoever necessary, or even useful, if you want to do work for small companies. Currently, there are no advantages to using XHTML; HTML is sufficient for everything a small, medium, and nearly every single large company needs. Sure, eventually XHTML will pick up some tricks, but until then there is no advantage to it.

    Truelight: saying Java includes Javascript is rather incorrect, since the thing they have most in common is "Java" in their name, and a _very_ slight similarity in syntax. Otherwise, they're entirely different languages.

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    Hmm...Isn't it loud and clear?
    if you don't have xHTML (or HTML) how are you gonna have a site? Flash? Maybe.

    PHP is fast replacing PERL. PHP would be what I feel an excellent choice for server-side programming language.

    for Database, mySQL.
    Languages>?

    PHP/mySQL + (see below on progression)
    but these ain't going to get you far.

    Progression from HTML. Would it be xhtml or xml?
    I would say xhtml for current web developers as transition to it from html is the simplest.
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    Truelight: saying Java includes Javascript is rather incorrect, since the thing they have most in common is "Java" in their name, and a _very_ slight similarity in syntax. Otherwise, they're entirely different languages.
    All right - I just assumed that the syntax would be more than just slightly similiar, but I wouldn't know that, I just started out. How about JSP? Don't you have any advantage learing javascript of JSP if you know java in the first place?
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    Learning XHTML is by no means whatsoever necessary, or even useful, if you want to do work for small companies. Currently, there are no advantages to using XHTML; HTML is sufficient for everything a small, medium, and nearly every single large company needs. Sure, eventually XHTML will pick up some tricks, but until then there is no advantage to it.
    It's not necessary - but I'm sure it can be used for several good purposes if you put your mind to it.

    I'm sure this is exactly what many web developers said about HTML 4 when they were using HTML 3.
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    Yes, learning Javascript is good even if you already know Java, because they're entirely different.

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    Oh, I meant does it make it EASIER to learn Javascript if you know "standard" Java?
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