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    When you buy those 25 cent articles, would you also be the sole user and owner of the copyright to the article?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nintendo
    Thats a scam!!! You can get articles for under 25 cents an article!!!!
    Uh hehe........

    You can get articles for free. Like anything, you get what you pay for. Sometimes a free article will do the job, and sometimes it won't.

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    I make a decent amount of money from it...I'm sure if you develope your kislls you can get some cash...But form scratch you won't deserve money no offense but it pisses me off when people with no skills get paid...

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    Quote Originally Posted by john2k
    When you buy those 25 cent articles, would you also be the sole user and owner of the copyright to the article?
    You have the right to edit the article and add your own by-line (signiture.). It's a great way to generate back-links if you get other sites to post them.
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    Within 9 months I was making $1000 month from Adsense & affiliate links - then came the disasterous Feb 2nd Google update and I'm down by 75%. It's risky especially if you depend on search engine traffic & just 1 site. Before the update I started to diversify with other sites & signed up with a VPS host that gives me more flexibility to add & abandon sites without spending extra $. Go with a topic you know and don't fart around for months designing & tweaking the site - you can always make changes once you're up & running & can see what works & doesn't.

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    Giggles, how do you get traffic to that site?

    Quote Originally Posted by imagenesis
    But form scratch you won't deserve money no offense but it pisses me off when people with no skills get paid...
    lol, why? It is frustrating I agree, but it doesn't piss me off. If they make money without spamming, then I'm glad for them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nintendo
    You have the right to edit the article and add your own by-line (signiture.). It's a great way to generate back-links if you get other sites to post them.
    You get copyright over the articles at 25 cents? you can add your byline and take off he original author's?? where is that, I'd sure like to know who is writing a full article for such a sum.

    The professional writers I know have a fee of $1 per word. So that $50 for an original unique 500 words piece is a very good price for the buyer.

    And yes, I know where you can get articles for free as long as you include the author's byline. But show me a writer that will write you unique content for 25 cents per article - that I have yet to see...
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    Lots of people make money on the Web, but it takes a long time and alot of trial and error plus some capital before you start making anything.

    It had taken me about 2 years before I started making money, which was January 2004 when I brought in my first check, which was from Adsense.

    Since then my earnings has increased and I am now getting regular checks from a number of online companies.

    If you don't believe that people can make money from the Web then you are mistaken. Look at Google and Yahoo for instance, they are making money from the Web.

    OK! Maybe you won't ever become big as them, but they probably started out like many of us on this forum that are earning from the Web today.

    The only cache to earning money from the Web is the time it takes to get your first check, the trial and error plus the capital that you have to be prepared to spend on it.

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    hi if you're looking for a free, easy to build eccommerce store for your ebooks, try http://www.vstore.ca/

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    I think people have to concentrate on what they want from online business. do they want:

    -a fully capable and organised site they (develop) control and build over time, for ultimate aim?
    -or are they after a business that makes money more or less straight away, regardless of administration?

    I know which appeals to me most and stands out as being more realistic. If it is the former then they'd better be ready for a large workload with seemingly no end. Of course it depends on your scope; I think my scope when I tried and failed was too vast and ambitious. But still I gained a lot from my development experience. You can spend years refining your formula before even going live. If the latter, then affiliate marketing (and other turnkey opportunities that use existing website infrastructures, ie Ebay selling) is the go because I know from my many hours investigating setting up and wanting to run a site I now cannot be bothered and simply want to adopt a basic approach to turn a profit, focusing on one aspect (selling/promotion) of the entire spectrum because I am only one person and can only do so much with my time. This even with a passion for designing, content, and being an ultimate entrepenuer. It's too much I found. After all isn't that what it's all about, making a living and getting on with core business dealings?

    I'd rather focus on promoting and collecting sales/commission than labouring over every facet and nuanace of an online venture, setting it up etc and give up basically everything else (ie a social life) and even then there's no guarantees. Go the easy road and step away from the computer at the end of the day to enjoy your work. Keep your tasks concise and sales-oriented if an income is what you want. Research your interests and product and join forces with other online businesses, and diversify. Maybe later develop that other idea from what you've learnt as an online sales person for others.

    most people would prob want to stuff the endless hours doing everything themselves in pursuit of perfection and fame and just rake in accountable dosh via promoting other well established sites, products, and systems which are already well designed and have had sweat and tears poured into already. Life is short. Go well.

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    I think people have to concentrate on what they want from online business. do they want:

    -a fully capable and organised site they (develop) control and build over time, for ultimate aim?
    -or are they after a business that makes money more or less straight away, regardless of administration?

    I know which appeals to me most and stands out as being more realistic. If it is the former then they'd better be ready for a large workload with seemingly no end. Of course it depends on your scope; I think my scope when I tried and failed was too vast and ambitious. But still I gained a lot from my development experience. You can spend years refining your formula before even going live. If the latter, then affiliate marketing (and other turnkey opportunities that use existing website infrastructures, ie Ebay selling) is the go because I know from my many hours investigating setting up and wanting to run a site I now cannot be bothered and simply want to adopt a basic approach to turn a profit, focusing on one aspect (selling/promotion) of the entire spectrum because I am only one person and can only do so much with my time. This even with a passion for designing, content, and being an ultimate entrepenuer. It's too much I found. After all isn't that what it's all about, making a living and getting on with core business dealings?

    I'd rather focus on promoting and collecting sales/commission than labouring over every facet and nuanace of an online venture, setting it up etc and give up basically everything else (ie a social life) and even then there's no guarantees. Go the easy road and step away from the computer at the end of the day to enjoy your work. Keep your tasks concise and sales-oriented if an income is what you want. Research your interests and product and join forces with other online businesses, and diversify. Maybe later develop that other idea from what you've learnt as an online sales person for others.

    most people would prob want to stuff the endless hours doing everything themselves in pursuit of perfection and fame and just rake in accountable dosh via promoting other well established sites, products, and systems which are already well designed and have had sweat and tears poured into already. Life is short. Go well.

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    can anyone kick a goal with this post, send it packing?

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    Time + Hardwork = Making Money on The Internet

    Dont expect to make money right away, and dont expect to have no work to do.
    And yes, people do make money of the internet, i guess Im not one of those people.

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    the key is to have a sharp focus and not try to cover too much ground, if you're a single person. Large content-driven sites require many people contributing to make it tick and provide broad and interesting coverage on top of all the admin and other tasks.

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    First things first -- get rid of the dog, and get your parents an apartment. You can't save the world, man -- save your marriage. Then worry about freelancing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moto
    Yes it is possible to make good money from the net. Every site I have help created pull a profit from the first month. It doesn't take so much as hard work as it is knowing what you're doing and knowing what sector of the net is the most profitable. It's the old "Working smart is better than working hard" saying.

    There are many net business models to chose from. I favour the content site advertising model since that's where I make my money. Others will favour ecommerce or affilaite sales. Find your niche, study up on it, make your business plan and work smart.
    Right... I agree... Can you help around here? Because here the guy needs it... But I AM really DESPERATE! Good advice is always welcome

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anat
    You get copyright over the articles at 25 cents?
    Nope. He does have some tiny restrictions....
    You CANNOT sell or give away the rebrandable/re-editable/resell/reauthor/rewriteable rights to the 199 articles to other people (as I'm doing here in). They must buy a license from me only. **Get re-seller rights and you can then sell them.**

    You CANNOT use these articles in any immoral, illegal or unethical manner, including sending UCE - unsolicited commercial email, also known as SPAM.

    You CANNOT use these articles if you ask for a refund. Your license will become null and void.

    You CANNOT add my name, business name or any other of my business or personal information to the articles. They are for your own use not mine.

    You CANNOT claim copyright to any of the articles unless substantial changes are made that legally separate the original article with your own reedited/rewritten article.

    All web site links (URLs) must point to business related web sites. This means no porno, gambling or other unrelated business web sites.
    Quote Originally Posted by Anat
    you can add your byline and take off he original author's??
    It doesn't even come with his by-line. You simply add your own, edit the articles, submit them to article sites, and start geting back-links, and re-sell the originals, once you get that right..

    Quote Originally Posted by Anat
    where is that, I'd sure like to know who is writing a full article for such a sum.
    *Hint* Signiture. *hint*
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    Quote Originally Posted by aeporia
    First things first -- get rid of the dog, and get your parents an apartment. You can't save the world, man -- save your marriage. Then worry about freelancing.
    True, that is exactly what I was thinking. What you are doing is great for your family, but you also have to live for yourself, think about yourself. Maybe I am greedy and cold SOB but I would not put myself through what you are.

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    i started today with paypal and sitepoint and i made 2$ just by making 20 lauzy posts, and i'm proud of it. looking to your situation you're gonna need a lot more then 2$ a day

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    My advices:

    1. find something you are good at and you like to do
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    3. do it again!
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    5. Correct your mistakes and do it!
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    Get rid of the parents before the dog.


    I have to completely agree about the 'INVESTMENT' required for a successful website. Remember, the number one reason businesses fail is lack of capital. Websites do not require too much money, but they do require a TON of time in capital. Time that has no return.

    An example:
    I have created a bunch of websites through contracts. I have created a few for myself. In the first couple years I had a learning curve, I had to drop two of my sites as I learned that I could spend my resources somewhere else even better.

    I now invest all my time [besides contracts] towards Movie Trailers

    Tons of hours, for little pay [but growing]. I lose more money than I get on this one.. for now. And the site almost requires me to be by it around 12 hours a day [late nights too]. When I'm not working, I think I should be.

    HOWEVER, the site started getting more uniques per day in six months than any of the others per month [after a year]. So, 30x+ the uniques, in half the time.

    Hopefully, this site will be the one.

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    innovate.

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    I can write my own article for 0.00, they wont be any good though, and my grammer and spelling is about the worse you have ever seem *chuckle*

    There are numerous ways of making money from the net, amazon, ebay, those site make millions in profit every year, obviously, you have to go with the old saying, "you have to have money to make money" which is on ENTIRELY true

    One thing I spose you would have to consider is do YOU have the skillz to build an internet based shop, or would you then have to go and hire someone to build it for you?
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    Quite entertaining to read all these posts... The main impression is, it's HARD! Well, I tend to agree. Internet really is a bit like the Klondyke gold rush. THere are tons of people out there promising you to make $$$$ "sitting at you kitchen table, in your underwear, a few hours/week"...! - If you buy their system, that is....

    One great way for some to make money on the internet is certainly to tell OTHERS how to make money on the internet...! Seriously, I have learned some useful things also.

    A short answer to the initial question: YES! you CAN make money on the internet, but it takes lots of know-how. And even with that, there is a great risk of failure. The flip side is, that it's not a big deal to fail a few times, since your investments are so low.
    (by the way, can't you stop the dog from eating that rug?!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fryman
    Yup, forget about that dream of using the net as a miracle way of getting quick money. Takes very hard work
    Thats absolute true, but if you work hard enough you can earn much money.

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    if you know how to code applications or programming language then you can make thousands of dollars at http://www.rentacoder.com


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