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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy W.
    but the blog posts were so infrequent it wasn't even funny (less than 1 a day across half a dozen blogs? Wow), and the articles had no fresh pull.
    Yeah, I inquired about that a few months ago. The content flow is so empty it's a bit sad. If they had a couple of people per blog, or if they had people with more primary focus on them, it'd probably be worth reading.. but they've definately lost my interest (and even new articles I only check once a month now because of the popup). Oh well, it's their call, not mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by someonewhois
    Oh well, it's their call, not mine.
    Agreed. I'm not saying SitePoint's evil or anything. Just that the main site isn't my cup of tea anymore. The forum's still good, but I'm too busy to check more than once a week
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy W.
    Agreed. I'm not saying SitePoint's evil or anything. Just that the main site isn't my cup of tea anymore. The forum's still good, but I'm too busy to check more than once a week
    Agreed, Mr. Blogging Hotshot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by someonewhois
    Yeah, I inquired about that a few months ago. The content flow is so empty it's a bit sad. If they had a couple of people per blog, or if they had people with more primary focus on them, it'd probably be worth reading.. but they've definately lost my interest (and even new articles I only check once a month now because of the popup). Oh well, it's their call, not mine.
    Yeah, I've personally found the vast majority of SP's new content, blogs included, to be fairly useless. Andrew posts something interesting now and then, but they just don't have much interesting stuff for me anymore...

    And the pop-up ticks me off, too. Enough already! We know you sell books!!! In fact, the pop-up is probably the main reason I haven't bought an SP book, which is sad because I hear they're good. But, it seems over-hyped I suppose...

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidjmedlock
    Yeah, I've personally found the vast majority of SP's new content, blogs included, to be fairly useless. Andrew posts something interesting now and then, but they just don't have much interesting stuff for me anymore...

    And the pop-up ticks me off, too. Enough already! We know you sell books!!! In fact, the pop-up is probably the main reason I haven't bought an SP book, which is sad because I hear they're good. But, it seems over-hyped I suppose...
    Oh the popups are for books now? I remember when it was newsletters. I guess it turns away us regulars, it'd be interesting to see how many people close the browser after getting that popup. Either it doesn't hurt them at all, or they're big enough not to worry about it.. still, it'd be really nice if it disappeared and they had some fresh new content through blosg and articles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by someonewhois
    Oh the popups are for books now? I remember when it was newsletters. I guess it turns away us regulars, it'd be interesting to see how many people close the browser after getting that popup. Either it doesn't hurt them at all, or they're big enough not to worry about it.. still, it'd be really nice if it disappeared and they had some fresh new content through blosg and articles.
    Are they still for newsletters? I don't remember... I never look at them, just anticipate the pop and the closing click that closely follows...

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    Okay this thread taught me a new pallor trick. I didn't know about the center-click/scroll thing in Firefox. That is cool.

    Now for the popup thingy, I don't care if SitePoint displays ads within the confines of their web pages. Actually I think this is a perfectly legitimate thing to do. I do, however, take issue with popup ads. Given the number of threads there have been in these forums in regards to popups and given how universally they are reviled, I thought SitePoint would have more class than to employ popups let alone use such a trick to circumvent the popup blocker.

    If we want to reduce the factors that drive people to use ad-blocking software, we need to have a little more respect and avoid forms of advertising that users find particularly obnoxious like popup ads.
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    Now, via technoweenie, I see that they are branding the middle-click autoscroll icon in Firefox. Everybody knows it's a kludgy implementation, sticking the icon into the page's DOM, and if anyone needed an example of how it can be abused they can always enable autoscrolling and middle-click Hixie's blog, but here again, they knowingly exploit a bug to shove themselves even more into your face.
    Oh no! Sitepoint can't possibly be experimenting with NEW TECHNOLOGY, can they? I mean, why can't we all just go back to using tables and perl, and do all non-web coding in assembly?

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    Yes. We must support the innovators. Like the comment spammers, SPIM'ers, door-to-door viagra salesmen (actually that could be fun) purely because they're trying something new.

    That's right. This is my ode to the new. The new is foo. Bow to the new.
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    Geniusgoalie, not all "new technology" is necessarily good. Plus this isn't a new technology. It is a different way of making sure popups still work. The more we use tricks like this to deliver intrusive or universally reviled ad formats, the more we drive users to using ad blocking software. For those us who depend upon ad revenues, it is in our own best interest to exercise some restraint and to reframe from using the more obnoxious advertising formats like popups or seizure inducing animations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy W.
    Yes. We must support the innovators. Like the comment spammers, SPIM'ers, door-to-door viagra salesmen (actually that could be fun) purely because they're trying something new.

    That's right. This is my ode to the new. The new is foo. Bow to the new.
    I wasn't saying it that way, when I read the article it seemed like they didn't like the scroll BECAUSE it was new.
    And door-to-door viagra salesman... excellent idea for a prank video...

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    I agree with what Jeremy said. I still can't get why this pop up is being used. SP don't need this to let people know that they sell books. I actually do a much better job than the pop up just by telling everyone I know how good and instructive are their books. It seems, looking at the posts in this thread, that this pop up technic creates the opposite of what is expected. People go away instead of enjoying it. It's obviously biased because this conclusion is only based on what has been said in here. However, I think you can have hardly have a motto that says "advocating best practice" and use a trick to walk around pop up blocking...

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    I usually don't post in this forum but the thread title was so catchy :err:

    I think you all missed the point. Stymiee is in the Grow and Manage Team. He just did his job. He got one new member registering and posting (see post #18). Good job mate

    Sorry for being sarcastic but there is something quite unpleasant in this first post. Am I off-topicing? Well... No. This thread is about a guy who was annoyed by SP and I talked about him. After all, you still didn't tell us what about was the discussion supposed to be........

    I wish there were more topics like this one. It's great for this board's reputation.
    you whiner

    it's really just a joke. word.

    As for stymiee intentions, I honestly doubt he wanted to look down on phil. I mean... come on.... look at his rep.

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    lol... yeah I kinda whined you're right.

    sorry if I sounded harsh. didn't check that rep stuff and i know you weren't being nasty on the guy stymiee.

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    I don't mind one popup from SitePoint and I visit SitePoint every day to see latest blog and article post (even though I do have RSS...)

    But in Opera (which I normally browser with) I don't ever (and never have) gotten any poups from anything. I turned them all of, there is no bypassing it. But I guess not for Firefox users.

    But the AutoScroll icon is kinda neat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charmedlover
    But in Opera (which I normally browser with) I don't ever (and never have) gotten any poups from anything. I turned them all of, there is no bypassing it. But I guess not for Firefox users.
    It's easy to block all new windows in Firefox too (it's a Preferences setting). However, the default is to only block unrequested windows. SitePoint's script makes it look like a requested window because it's attached to a click on the page if the popup didn't happen on page load.

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    Oh, well that seems unethical.


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