Access DFDs, Entity-relationship diagrams

[Dean C]

Is there any free program out there that'll help me draw these ?

[elel1138]

Try dbvisualizer:

http://www.minq.se/products/dbvis/

[vgarcia]

ERD: Tools -> Relationships within Access

DFD: Nothing within Access.

Off Topic:

I'm guessing you need this for a school project, because I've never heard of a company using Data Flow Diagrams in real work. I always used Visio for this sort of thing though; it has some great tools for what you're after.

[r937]

data flow diagrams were all the rage in the late 70's and early 80's

i know, i was there

i used to swear by my first edition of "Gane and Sarson" (see http://www.agilemodeling.com/artifac...lowDiagram.htm)