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    Microsoft AntiSpyware

    http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx

    Has anyone else tried this yet (out today)? Seems very good so far

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    Smile Re: Microsoft AntiSpyware Beta

    I'll give it a shot when it comes out of beta, but right now I use Lavasoft AdAware. My feeling is that if a company isn't ready to declare it as finished, it almost certainly isn't.



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    It looks as though there are many words of praise and few words of criticism at the moment... Between Mozilla Firefox and AdAware I think I'm safe for now, but I do look forward to trying it.
    Last edited by cfm; Jan 6, 2005 at 18:46. Reason: Updated opinion.

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    I might give it a try later on once I get back to my regular PC

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    I have it on my machne but haven't gotten too indepth with it. From I have heard other's say it makes Adaware look like an amateur's toy.
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    Isn't M$ windoz spyware?

    If you have ever run adaware on a fresh install of windows xp it will detect Alexa - apparently this is installed as part of media player.

    I am not sure if it's fixed in sp2 or not...
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    Hmm... Alexa was included as part of Internet Explorer 4 so maybe if you install a fresh version of Windows 95, it will detect that.

    Have run AdAware on many Windows 98/ME/2000/XP computers and it has never turned up Alexa unless it was actually installed manually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iluminatae
    Isn't M$ windoz spyware?


    Quote Originally Posted by iluminatae
    If you have ever run adaware on a fresh install of windows xp it will detect Alexa - apparently this is installed as part of media player.
    I never had anything related to this in my installation.

    Quote Originally Posted by iluminatae
    Thats ridiculous

    First
    But if you don't use that menu or button, Alexa will not hear from you. No spying will take place.
    and then
    This feature is still 'spyware'
    Somehow I would usually say this is mutually exclusive

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    It's a great program. I recommend everyone download it. It found a good number of things in my registry that both SpyBot and AdAware didn't find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drzoid
    I never had anything related to this in my installation.
    Well computers are strange beasts - every single time I reinstall my windows xp and run adaware it picks up those registry keys and I delete them. Yes it is ridiculous that windows installs this crap. Even if its not activated until you use those features - its still there...
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    Quote Originally Posted by iluminatae
    Well computers are strange beasts - every single time I reinstall my windows xp and run adaware it picks up those registry keys and I delete them. Yes it is ridiculous that windows installs this crap. Even if its not activated until you use those features - its still there...
    If Windows is such a problem why not use Unix or Linux and be done with it? Do something active instead of complain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iluminatae
    Well computers are strange beasts - every single time I reinstall my windows xp and run adaware it picks up those registry keys and I delete them. Yes it is ridiculous that windows installs this crap. Even if its not activated until you use those features - its still there...
    No idea what you mean. Perhaps you are using some kind of OEM version which comes with additional customised packages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunedin
    Another windows 'quirk'. Another unpatched trojan.
    Another Windows XP machine that is so bloated with patches and updates that well written software failed.

    Nah, OS X, its easier.

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    Okay, I downloaded it and gave it a try. I think it is very user friendly and I like the fact that it asked me if I wanted it to run in the background, schedule tasks, etc.

    One odd thing though. It detected the program InstSrv.exe which was installed as part of the Windows 2000 Resouce kit as a trojan. This has me very puzzled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drzoid
    Just someone taking every little opportunity to bash Windows when they really do not know what they are talking about. Easily ignored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hierophant
    Just someone taking every little opportunity to bash Windows when they really do not know what they are talking about. Easily ignored.
    Seems to be more of that occurs then insightful discussion whenever Microsoft products are discussed. I guess all you can do is just comment on the ones that stick to the topic at hand. (And I'll admit to not being a MS fan but just blindly bashing them doesn't make my opinion look any more intelligent).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hierophant
    Just someone taking every little opportunity to bash Windows when they really do not know what they are talking about. Easily ignored.
    Agreed, but this time not even very creative bashing and its getting boring after all anyway

    I guess its because of people like Dunedin that I often sound much more Pro-Microsoft than I actually am

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    just downloaded, will see what happen tomorrow when i test on an useless computer.

    if this little thing helps...omg...my boss gonna be so happy.
    cause we spend like 1/3 of the times in helpdesk just try to remove spywares...
    well, what else do i expect from community services employees....

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    Quote Originally Posted by metaPrototype
    just downloaded, will see what happen tomorrow when i test on an useless computer.

    if this little thing helps...omg...my boss gonna be so happy.
    cause we spend like 1/3 of the times in helpdesk just try to remove spywares...
    well, what else do i expect from community services employees....
    Like I said in my last post I thought it was a very clean interface and ran very smoothly. I think people will find it very useful and I suspect while this software is "beta" it is based on some pretty decent software as it is essentially a rebranded spyware detection program that Microsoft bought out so that they could give it away as a carrot to get people to verify that their O/S is legitimate.

    Actually providing free benefits like this spyware detection program to users running legit copies of Windows is a good incentive to help curb piracy. Well at least it might help MSFT get a handle on how big the piracy problem is. I don't like a lot of what MSFT does, but I think this is a smart move and will be good for users.

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    Off topic:
    I was going to ignore the anti-M$FT rabble, but since stymiee and others put their two cents in on these silly comments I'll add mine. I'm more of a reluctant MSFT user than a fan, and I never miss an opportunity to show users why they should shift away from MSIE, Outlook and Outlook Express. With that said, I really don't see how making sarcastic M$FT comments in every Microsoft thread is at all constructive. I echo the opinion that we should simply ignore trite sarcasm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hierophant
    If Windows is such a problem why not use Unix or Linux and be done with it? Do something active instead of complain.
    Well said, I test the software out last night and it picked up stuff that spybot didnt. So thats a plus.

    One thing though, it said VNC was spyware. Anyone else had this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark_W
    One thing though, it said VNC was spyware. Anyone else had this?
    Due to the nature of what VNC does I would not say classifying it as spyware is inappropriate. Especially since some malicious users do try to install it on user's machines in an attempt to hijack them.

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    I'll keep using Spybot until this thing is out of beta, then I'll give it a shot. Spyware and virus monitoring are two things I just don't trust beta software with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vgarcia
    I'll keep using Spybot until this thing is out of beta, then I'll give it a shot. Spyware and virus monitoring are two things I just don't trust beta software with.
    Same here. I using Pc-Cillin Internet Security, Spybot, Ad-aware etc. Apparently, people have had great success with the MS spyware thing in its beta stage - could that mean MS is going to become the spyware-defense market monopoly?

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    Microsoft Anti-spyware vs. Ad-aware vs. Spy Bot S&D

    Apparently the Microsoft tool finds twice as much spyware as Ad-aware and three times as much as Spybot S&D. Looks like it might be a very good tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyraider
    Same here. I using Pc-Cillin Internet Security, Spybot, Ad-aware etc. Apparently, people have had great success with the MS spyware thing in its beta stage - could that mean MS is going to become the spyware-defense market monopoly?
    They could, but think about it, the spyware-defense market is an artificial market created by security weaknesses in Microsoft's products. One could look at it as users are having to pay extra for Microsoft's problems and Microsoft providing a free spyware tool is simply them making good on the fact that they are partially responsible for the problem to begin with. Notice that there isn't a need for a spyware-defense market in the Mac world.

    This is probably the first time that I'm happy that Microsoft decided to enter a new market.
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