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    25 post rule is gone? WHY?

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    I am just wondering why the 25 post rule has been deleted from forums such as contests, etc...

    Its like flooded w/entried from ppl w/1-5 posts, and quite frankly, most of there designs suck. And then usually they go away, and never post again...

    25 Post rule was probabally the best idea ever... but now its gone. why?
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    This is all the email said:

    As a team and community, we always listen to your feedback when trying to improve user experiences.

    Therefore, some of you may have noticed that the 25 post requirement to enable new members to reply to threads in the Marketplace has been dropped.

    The Advertise Your Services forum retains a strict no reply policy. If you fancy brushing up on our ever-changing and improving guidelines for the Marketplace -- please do!
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    You still need 25 posts to start a thread though.

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    Its still dumb IMO... I had to wait until 25 posts.... It wasnt a big deal.

    I guess unless you want people to only sign up so they can post once or twice in the contests forum....keep it how it is then :/
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    well you need to consider the other ares of the fourm, having that 25 post rule meant that we had a lot of duff posting elsewhere and so we are trying this way.

    you know nothing is set in stone but we have to keep trying variations to see which works best
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    I understand, but out of the two methods SPF tried so far, 25 post rule was better. Im sure almost any member(any non new member) would agree w/me, and the the new members in about a month will want a 25 post rule.... I had it, I thought it was great
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    I agree, it was better. But there was always people moaning in other forums wondering why they couldn't post. A real good rule would be to make newbies read the rules.

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    heheh. Very true. I read the rules when I arrived and I dont "think" I've run into any trouble yet *thank goodness*!!
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    I think for all of the marketplace forums is makes sense to force everyone to read the rules before making a post. I don't think that would be too hard. Wouldn't really solve your problem with the Contest forum since the removal of the 25 posts rule only applies to replies... but... it would go a long way toward fixing problems in other marketplace forums
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    I agree, bring back the 25post rule but display a nice little message at the top of each page showing why they couldn't reply to threads in that forum (until they get 25posts), and also perhaps a polite reminder that any attempts to spam to get 25posts will be noticed and promptly set back to 0

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    It has begun...

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    egor - those contests seem fine and as they have over 25 posts anyway I am not sure what you mean by your post above?
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    My bad with the first link Sarah, don't know what I was thinking. It was that second thread's comment I had noticed when I posted the above.

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    I think the post requirement for starting a marketplace thread should be at least 1000.

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    1000? Maybe 100... Some people dont come on all day and just post and would take them a year to get 1000 posts..
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    There wouldnt be any contest running if you holder has to make at least 100 posts, let alone an extra zero. Why do you poeple care anyways, should be focusing on more important things in life.. like a girlfriend?

    lets kill this thread! lol MK3 =P
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    Yeah, I think 1000 is a bit much... I have been posting here for 2 years and I amnot at 1000 posts yet.
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    Yeah, 1,000 is a lot. It takes me almost 2 months to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Identity
    TWhy do you poeple care anyways, should be focusing on more important things in life.. like a girlfriend?
    Oh! Right! So why are you bothering to post then? Haven't you got better things to do? Like get spelling lessons?

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    I understand the decision. Whenever you have rewards for posting on a forum users will post for the sole reason of bumping their post count higher instead of actually contributing to a thread.

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    I'm with you on this Mk3, there has been some complete rubbish in the contest forums lately (logos seemingly produced in paint... for example) and a lot of people who seem to have not read the posting rules even once. The 25 post made it more of a reward to actually enter the competitions. Oh, and my girlfriend is sitting 4 foot away from me on my bed...
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    I think how it is atm is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Identity
    Why do you poeple care anyways, should be focusing on more important things in life.. like a girlfriend?

    Im getting married in 3 months... Maybe you need a girlfriend?
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    I wasn't serious when I said the post count should be 1000. Come on, is it that hard to detect sarcasm?

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    I think the 25 post rule should be instated as it denotes that a person isn't just a fly-by-night 'potentially' copycat designer, and that they take the whole thing seriously by participating in the entire community. I also think there should be tighter constraints and some kind of 'honourable conduct' terms and conditions that designers agree to governing complete originality with submissions, anything submitted that might resemble another persons design, or, a combination of elements from other peoples designs - should be strictly disallowed. I'm not sure how such a condition would be implemented or maintained, but I think by agreeing to an 'honourable conduct' stipulation, designers - new and not so new, might think twice about how they go about originating a concept... as a rule of thumb, I like to "not" look at others submissions before giving thought to how a requirement might be fullfilled, that ensures total originality - and if by chance a design happens to look like something someone else has submitted earlier, then 'bite the bullet' - move onto to another project and hope the same doesn't happen. Sometimes within a design brief, graphic designers will ultimately go down the same path because to intelligent talented designers, only the one can be taken to exactly meet a client's requirement - my opinion on that is, if someone's done it before you, then congratulate yourself that you were on the right track and try to do something faster in another contest.

    Having such standards will strenghten the community and quickly eliminate any fly-by-night designers, and (more than likely) they will be the ones with less than 25 posts so perhaps both implementations will compliment each other.

    As they say, even among thieves there is honour.

    Take care everyone :-)


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