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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash_Monster
    Man alot of you guys have it rough. Where I'm from, gas is pretty cheap,...public trasportation can get u anywhere quick for a couple bucks, very few places actually charge for parking, and our traffic is good enough that you don't have to decide between public or personal transportation if you dont want to.
    Ahh Arizona, the land of cheap gas- and cactuses
    I prefer ice over desert

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    Quote Originally Posted by geniusgoalie
    Ahh Arizona, the land of cheap gas- and cactuses
    I prefer ice over desert
    Actually Northern Arizona usually gets snow every year especially up near the Grand Canyon, Flagstaff and Sedona areas. Gets pretty cold there. Temperature has nothing to do with whether an area is a desert or not...

    Some parts of Antarctica get less rainfall per year than the Sahara desert (or Arizona for that matter) and there is plenty of ice there.

    http://www.coolantarctica.com/Antarc...Antarctica.htm
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    You are very correct. Arizona is a land of multiple extremes. Not only do we have some of the driest, hottest, blistering summers,.....up north we also have some of the coldest winters too. Arizonans up north get massive amounts of snow sometimes so much that people are trapped in their houses and on occasion even die cause of it.

    I love it here in arizona. NIce warm winters. Can drive a little ways up north to play in the snow. Can drive a little ways down south to swim in the ocean. And best of all, ony 4 hours drive to Las Vegas,...woohoo


    ......oh yea and gas is cheap..

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    I don't buy gas. The consequences are twofold: it keeps me from going out as often as I'd like to, and it keeps our leader from getting more rich.

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    Im paying 1.98/gal for BP Amoco Ultimate (only thing I feed the BMW) and my car gets about 17mpg in town and 23mpg on the highway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvoVII
    ... and my car gets about 17mpg in town and 23mpg on the highway.
    OMG WTF LOL

    i can't remember what my car gets, it's a '69 beetle

    my car pollutes a lot (but it's not as bad as a leaf blower, so all you guys with leaf blowers and 2-stroke lawn mowers just shut up)

    but i don't drive it a lot, i prefer to cycle

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    We may not have a lot of traffic, but we have some crazy drivers like ive never seen anywhere else. There is just no way I can trust other drivers enough for me to "cycle" anywhere in my city. Not that I would'nt like to cause I would.

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    BTW, i actually met a guy that moved down here from New York City and he moved back cause according to him, the traffic in downtown Phoenix was just too much for him to handle.....go figure..

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    Quote Originally Posted by r937
    my car pollutes a lot (but it's not as bad as a leaf blower, so all you guys with leaf blowers and 2-stroke lawn mowers just shut up)
    But my leaf blower (which hasn't been used in two years) and lawn mower are both electric.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hierophant
    But my leaf blower (which hasn't been used in two years) and lawn mower are both electric.
    Where does that electricity come from though - coal plants?

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    flash_monster, contact me privately if you need reassurance

    if the distance is reasonable, you can do it

    it's sort of like what they say about football -- ninety percent of football is fifty percent mental

    the right outlook can make bicycle commuting a daily joy

    yes, a joy, a never-felt-so-alive joy, a joy that rewards you in so many ways

    i did it for many years

    (currently, i commute from the bedroom to the computer, and that's too short a trip to cycle)
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    I commuted by bicycle a crapload when I was in college. Was alright, except when I had to carry bulky stuff - but by car is far more convenient. Saves a lot of time, can haul much more stuff, don't arrive all sweaty and smelly, much more comfortable in cold weather, can go much much farther. I occasionally ride my bike for fun and exercise only now. If I lived in a dense metroplex like NYC where driving a car can be a huge pain and had to commute I'd probably get a motorcycle or moped, or use public transit (BART or the El are pretty good, but packed during rush hours).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveMichaels
    Where does that electricity come from though - coal plants?
    No, Coal Generated Electricity is being made illegal in California and all those plants are being phased out. I think there are only three left. Natural Gas is predominant though. My electricity is actually generated by a company that specializes in Wind and Solar generation. There are too large wind farms to the north of where I live so I would guess that a good majority of it comes from there.

    Now, I am not so naive as to think all my electricity comes from there because my distribution provide is Southern California Edison and there is no way to determine exactly where the power comes from once it goes into the transmission lines. However, even with Natural Gas production, there are millions spent to make sure the pollution is controlled and has a minimal effect. Something that I cannot do as a consumer with gasoline powered machines.

    As far as driving, my wife use between 25 and 45 gallons of gasoline a month. Don't have any need for anything else as we usually do not drive very much. In the last two months we have only driven 1200 miles which is about 63 gallons.
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    diesel diesel diesel

    It's more expensive than unleaded but we've got a nice quick midsize car and it does 50mpg so it's dead cheap. And you can add 25% vegetable oil to it which reduces it more. My dad has a chippy so we just need to filter the used oil.

    If I get a little diesel SEAT Arosa when I learn to drive it will do 65mpg
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    Do they have any nuclear plants in California?

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    You can buy kits for diesel cars so they run 100% off vegetable oil. And I guess you can get the oil for free from a lot of restaurants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveMichaels
    Do they have any nuclear plants in California?
    There are two according to this map here: http://www.energy.ca.gov/maps/power_plant.html

    Seems the majority are oil/gas or hydro-electric.
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    While we're talking California utilities - did Erin Brockovich (the person and/or the movie) have much impact on PG&E?

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    Don't really know as I haven't researched it. Things like that tend to impact through resultant laws more than corporate changes though. PG&E doesn't serve my area so haven't really paid much attention to them. They are really in no danger of going out of business because they are a government regulated monopoly.
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    40 cents for 1l of Diesel

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    oh, btw, this is in Ukraine

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    In Romania the gas costs $1 per liter, that makes it $3.78 per gallon. Oh! And the average payment rate is $200/month. No wonder we travel by bus or by train .
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    $0.16/ liter here (u can get 6 liters for just $1)
    but its very crap

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark_W
    I doubt its the law to tip them....... I could be wrong though! :/
    You don't tip them. They get paid more.

    Gas here is about $1.90-$2.30. That's pretty low. It was all over $2 for the past few months.

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    $1.57-$1.68 a gallon for 88 octane in Lubbock, Texas. I get about 12mpg so I don't drive unless I have to.


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