what about this

[basjen]

I just want to know what you think of this page. I just mean the design and if frames is a good idea here. And were the smartest place to put a banner ad. When it is finished a menu will be on the left side.

http://www.sash-underground.f2s.com/del1.htm
Maybe you have to refresh it or hit enter one more time if it comes a 404.

any tips appreciated
Thanx in advance!

[Justin Sampson]

Well, I really don't think that you need frames. It could be easly done with tables. I'd try adding a picture or somthing because the page is kind of plain.

I'd try putting the banner ad next to the your logo on the top.

[basjen]

It`s just that I`m not so good with tables

[lucas]

i think it looks pretty good with frames, though i don't like frames in general. tables aren't that hard to learn, at least not any harder than frames are.

[harryk]

I think the frames look ok. I think you could put a banner next to your logo in the top frame since it'll always be on the screen. I hate banners though

[charon12345]

Hi basjen,
Although I'm a rookie I'd agree with the point about tables frames, and also that they probably aren't any more difficult than frames. Long term they give you greater flexibiklity I think.

Banner & logo right the top - first thing seen

The blue may become a problem if it's the background for text - it looks very dark to me.

My 2 cents

[basjen]

I have made a page with tables now, which one is the best? And if the one with tables is the best what aint so good about it and were to but a banner?

http://www.sash-underground.f2s.com/test/nyheter.html

If someon know how I can make the page with tables(I mean the first one I submitted) and it will look almost like?

ps. I`m a rookie too