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    ^ is *never* confused
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    ^^ is trying to confuse me. The only difference between demon and daemon is that the latter is olde English?

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    ^ is still confused.

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    Demon is always negative.

    Daemon is more positive.

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    ^^ still confusing. I only see from those articles the difference between the beings in different cultures.

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    ^ sells stuff

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    phpdaemon, well no, in the Christian sense they are definitely evil, whilst in other religions and cultures they are not necessarily so.
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    Well, I'm myself confused here a bit. I'm neither a christian, nor english or greek. But I'm trying to understand things here. Please tell me if I'm wrong.

    See I got a link here. It tells -

    Demon and daemon were once used interchangeably. The former came to English from medieval Latin, while the latter was from classical Latin. The earliest use appears to have been in the phrase daemon of Socrates, which was his "attendant, ministering, or indwelling spirit; genius". That was in the late 14th century. It was a short time later that the term demon came to refer to "an evil spirit" by influence of its usage in various versions of the Bible. The Greek form was used to translate Hebrew words for "lords, idols" and "hairy ones (satyrs)". Wyclif translated it from Greek to English fiend or devil. This is how the evil connotation arose.

    By the late 16th century, the general supernatural meaning was being distinguished with the spelling daemon, while the evil meaning remained with demon. Today daemon can mean "a supernatural being of a nature intermediate between that of gods and men" or "a guiding spirit".

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    ^ is confused

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    Oh I agree with the article. i've seen it used in these contexts.
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    ^ agrees with me

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    Yeah, here I was speaking about the same culture, the western christianism, that daemon and demon are different today.

    However, since you have mentioned opposite meaning of a word in different cultures, I agree with you. I have noticed that as well. While trying to understand the differences and similarities between Zoroastrianism and Hinduism I found that the word Asura is negative in Hinduism, but positive in Zoroastrianism (Ahura, since they pronounce S as H), and there are other words that are different as well. Also, vice-versa.

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    ^ agrees that I agree

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    Oh, in christian culture itself, well...I was getting the sense from the article it did not mean that, because, as far as I know, Christians only believe in the very evil type of demon.
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    ^ is confusing me

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    You mean, Dev, that Demon is bad for both christians and in english language.

    But for Daemon, it's still bad in christianism, though good in English?

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    ^ is easily confused

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    Well, one can obviously separate Christianity and English; not every English-speaking person is Christian...as for the religion, yes only the evil form of demon is recognized.
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    ^ is helping me to clarify my confusion.

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    By the late 16th century, the general supernatural meaning was being distinguished with the spelling daemon, while the evil meaning remained with demon. Today daemon can mean "a supernatural being of a nature intermediate between that of gods and men" or "a guiding spirit".

    Professor Jerome H. Saltzer, who also worked on Project MAC, confirms the Maxwell's demon explanation.


    But, both Saltzer and Maxwell seems to be christian, right? Or you mean to say that in Bible Demon and Daemon are same, for scholars that may be different.

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    ^ thinks all English-speakers are Christian

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    How do you know they are Christian? Even if they were it's not their job to introduce that into their work.

    I doubt the Bible even uses daemon.
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    ^ has arrived when the hot discussion has just finished.

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    OK, thanks Dev. That's clear now.

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    ^ is upside-down

    Wel that might be fun anyway

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    Yeah, talk about a thread within a thread eh?
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    ^ GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

    ^^ Is straight as an arrow But still a little bit banana inside lol

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    but that is the fun in these threads, the ot discussions are better than the thread itself, in spurts. I come here for that more than for the theme of the thread itself
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    ^ thinks its fun to keep watching a thread to develop without participating

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    Yeah, the OT sub threads are very nice surely

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