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    time for budinc to pay and they drop the account

    well i signed up with bud in 2 months ago and after my net 30 is up they decided to terminate my account for invalid impressions.

    I have no idea how you get invalid impressions. I have 1 banner on each page. I run a dateing site and bud or whoever runs that site ows me over $2k

    so everyone RUN!!!!! im going to write another letter to sitepoint, I dont think they should let conartist advertise on sitepoint.


    sorry i cant post specifics, I have consulted with a lawyer, to help get my payment.

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    Wow, 2000$ from just banners..whats there eCPM for banners? and how many impressions you have per month?

    I think most networks who drop publishers for invalid clicks, impressionss...etc never pay. But if the reason was underperformance or other reasons then I think they pay.

    Faulty impressions may include page refreshing scripts which automatically refresh the page every few seconds and inflate the number of impressions.

    However, they waited for 2 months to discover that??? They only need few days to terminate an account for this...I think you should mail them and wait for more clear reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EP-Webmaster
    Wow, 2000$ from just banners..whats there eCPM for banners? and how many impressions you have per month?

    I think most networks who drop publishers for invalid clicks, impressionss...etc never pay. But if the reason was underperformance or other reasons then I think they pay.

    Faulty impressions may include page refreshing scripts which automatically refresh the page every few seconds and inflate the number of impressions.

    However, they waited for 2 months to discover that??? They only need few days to terminate an account for this...I think you should mail them and wait for more clear reply.
    i have many many emails with them over the last few weeks.
    I had to wait 2 months because they pay net 30. its more like 50 days i have been with them. they would of owed me a check for about $800 for the first 30 days then $1200 for this month. I have had the code on our network for 50 days and never changed anything.
    i have a meeting with ourlawyer monday, and he told me not to talk about it. so this is just a warning. I would suggest people do a search on google for budsinc and read some of the other forums about the company

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    This is the silliest thing I've ever heard and if you are going to believe this guy then that's fine. The only site we have kicked out who isn't getting paid is a site that turned out to have pornography all over it. So if that's you who is posting, please leave your comments to yourself, you weren't kicked out for invalid impressions, no one was. Again you were kicked out because you had an entire section of pornography which is completly against our TOS. Now is when you post that you only put the pornography up like a week ago and then took it down after we kicked you out. That's your business, end result we found tons of pornography on your site, we have no idea when it was up, you wrote in an e-mail you agreed you had pornography up and therefore you will not be paid. This is why you are in contact with our lawyer and that's all.

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    I figured there would be another side to the story

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    There usually is, I'm glad buds clarified this. I didnt think buds would terminate accounts for no reason and not pay any fairly earned payments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by budsinc
    This is the silliest thing I've ever heard and if you are going to believe this guy then that's fine. The only site we have kicked out who isn't getting paid is a site that turned out to have pornography all over it. So if that's you who is posting, please leave your comments to yourself, you weren't kicked out for invalid impressions, no one was. Again you were kicked out because you had an entire section of pornography which is completly against our TOS. Now is when you post that you only put the pornography up like a week ago and then took it down after we kicked you out. That's your business, end result we found tons of pornography on your site, we have no idea when it was up, you wrote in an e-mail you agreed you had pornography up and therefore you will not be paid. This is why you are in contact with our lawyer and that's all.
    this is a lie, if you dont believe me do a search on google. he doesnt have the greatest name. I wish we would of done this search before sendin the traffic. we do not have porn ANYWHERE on our site. this is budsinc trying to weezle out of saying yes we kicked this user off because we owed them alot of money

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    $2000.00 isn't really a lot of money. If it were a lot of money to a network, then they would have other problems.
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    webman4life, you created a user on sitepoint just now to tell us this?

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    If you were just terminated, they will still pay out money owed, unless you were specifically told you will not be paid due to violation of their terms. (Apparently due to porn on the site)

    Care to disclose the site(s) in question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hextraordinary
    webman4life, you created a user on sitepoint just now to tell us this?
    yes, i have lurked for a long time. i am that upset about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnlineGuide
    $2000.00 isn't really a lot of money. If it were a lot of money to a network, then they would have other problems.
    no its not alot but we are owed it, i was going to use the money for prizes for our users. kind of a nice xmas present and what not.

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    I wouldn't believe this guy who just made an account for bashing budsinc, I've been with this company from 4 months and they're always paying on regular terms.

    Why don't you post an URL to your site?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lackeroom
    I wouldn't believe this guy who just made an account for bashing budsinc, I've been with this company from 4 months and they're always paying on regular terms.

    Why don't you post an URL to your site?
    its not your concern, its my business model. but there is a good chance you have been on the site

    how much did you make last month on budsinc? my point is that once you make a good amount, they kick you off.

    im not suppose to say more, but i bet if you *cough* emailed facethejury, they might say the same thing.
    both sides have had a say, so everyone use your best judgement.

    when the stuff with the lawyers is done ill scan in everything

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    Go ahead and scan in everything you want, face the jury will be paid of course cause they have done nothing wrong, except for the fact that they loaded our cubes which are 300x250 into a 180x150 window. They will be paid nontheless cause it isn't a huge violation. The reason they were terminated is because they are a huge site that generates a lot of adviews and very little clicks and conversions for advertisers. I'm sure any ad company can back me up that rating sites show very poor results cause most people are just scanning through looking for pictures of others and to chat and don't even see the ads that are usually put in obscure places that no one looks at. Nevertheless we tried running ads on these types of sites and recently had to kick them cause they just didn't perform. This has nothing to do with payments. Not to mention $2000 ? Big deal, we have publishers who have been paid way more then $2000, 10x more 20x more (this is not about bragging) just an example. I'm sure those sites aren't going to post here because they don't want to be known. You want to know about fair, we had downtime so we compensated all our publishers in cash for it, want to hear fair, we screwed up adding 1 specific campaign for one publisher, maybe he will post here so I once off sent him $60. I'm tired of having to defend my company for not paying a site that just consists of one main news page and forums, yet gets almost 1 mm pageviews per day, why you might wonder does this random site get so much traffic, because he had a huge gallery of pornography. You want to get lawyers to handle it, go ahead, I have e-mails from you about the pornography and screenshots. Stop bashing my company and someone on these forums please help us out and put an end to this guy bashing us.

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    Buds has been exceptional for me as well since I joined them(I think May 2004?), the only problem they had with me recently is their cubes were at the bottom of the pages, so they asked me to put it in the middle or somewhere else, but not at the bottom. I did that and happy with them so far, btw my site is an image related as well...fingers crossed to not being kicked out anyway , there are plenty of other ways, if you have porn on your site, join porn network and see your CTR going up all the way if you can't join any other network.

    N_F_S

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    Since someone has pmed slightly worried, let me make one other thing clear here, we aren't talking about one picture of a naked boob, we are talking about an entire section of the site, that had galleries, of spring break girls, amateur xxx and lots more.

    Not to mention, just looked up your account and you only made about $300 in Oct and the same thus far in Nov. Not sure where you get $2000 from.

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    Thread closed as nothing good is going to be facilitated by this thread.

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