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    Smile I Got To The Top Of Yahoo In Two Days - How?

    Greetings peeps

    Here's a little tale of SEO, keywords & search engines. I'm quite surprised myself actually, and I wouldn't mind an explanation if someone can give me one.

    It's like this.....I was messing about on my weblog. I made an entry in my weblog about how someone had found me by looking for the term Asian Porno. Obviously, at some point I must have blabbed on about that subject - or those two words came up on the same page as the search engine spidered my weblog at some point.

    Anyway, I decided to see how far I could get away with this, i.e. how far I could get my page up in various search engines, (Google & Yahoo mainly), using the term Asian Porno. (Yes, I know I do some bizarre things on that weblog! ). And I did it. I got to Number 1 in Yahoo:

    Number One in Yahoo for "Asian Porno"

    But, what I would really like to know is - how did I do it? Was it really just correct keyword placing? And could I, or anyone else, repeat this on a commercial site?

    Intriguing fun, eh?

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    Blogs do really well in search engines because they're structured properly and are full of links, two things that search engines seem to love. Hell, my blog still gets search hits for the term "cheap ipods" even though I only wrote a paragraph or two about it in the past and my site has little if anything to do with ipods..

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    Thanks for the quick reply Vinnie

    I was also wondering if the length of time my blog has been on the net has got anything to do with it?

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    I think blogs seriously diminish the value of search results. Google will put that right for you really soon.



    Lets face it....how many people do you know who search on the pointless witterings of adolescents!


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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonMc
    I think blogs seriously diminish the value of search results. Google will put that right for you really soon.
    Why do they? I've learned more about certain topics from blogs than anywhere else. Some of the best places to learn about Web development are, in fact, blogs.
    Quote Originally Posted by SimonMc
    Lets face it....how many people do you know who search on the pointless witterings of adolescents!
    I think you have a very narrow definition of the term "blog". If anything, that just describes the software used. I've seen many sites take advantage of "blogging", including big names like CNET. Search around a little more.

    Oh, and by the way I'm not an adolescent, I'm 24 years old. And I don't need to write big to make my thoughts known.

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    Simon - if you'd actually read my blog on this subject you'd have seen that I'd already summised that Google had sussed me spamming my own page - and booted me from 36th to 62nd in the blink of an eye.

    Vinnie - yes, after blogging for a couple of years now - I've learnt an awful lot from many blogs, and the people who write in them. Could you also explain the remark you made about blogs being "structured properly" - how does the structure, (or what is the "structure"), of my blog that enables it to be searched by search engines better than say "another" website?

    Sorry for the basic questions, it's just that I'm quite interested as to how I've been able to do this.

    Edited same evening: p.s. I'm back at 25th in Google now

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    Heh, what a facinating result for such a facinating keyword

    I wish i could do that hehe

    Best of luck

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    Hello2paul, how competitive your keyword? I have no clear idea how competitive the keyword, like who is in the 2nd position and his backlink..etc. In yahoo, keyword density is still big matter, but for Google links.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hello2paul
    Vinnie - yes, after blogging for a couple of years now - I've learnt an awful lot from many blogs, and the people who write in them. Could you also explain the remark you made about blogs being "structured properly" - how does the structure, (or what is the "structure"), of my blog that enables it to be searched by search engines better than say "another" website?
    Blogs, by their nature, carry a lot of links and link to lots of other sites. Search engines like Google love these link networks. In addition, the link text to/from other sites is usually very targetted and relevant to the destination page, making it easier for search engines to decipher what each page is about.

    Some blogging software, like Wordpress, do other things to increase SEO potential out of the box. You can change your permalinks to be search engine friendly (for example, with the format /archive/category/postname). Another bonus is that the titles of entries is usually wrapped in an <hx> tag in the default install of WP and other blogging software, and search engines love that too. It all adds up to a very good experience for search engine bots .

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    I decided to do a little digging myself......using the Keyword Suggestion Tool at http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/su...rno&country=us , and it would seem that Asian Porno is searched for approx 240 times a day using Word Tracker. Of course id I'd opted for Asian Porn, then that would have been a staggering search per day of 2,477!

    Still, it's all interesting stuff. I would if by studying my keyword search stats I could out together articles using a combo of the most popular keywords to find my page - and then hopefully get guaranteed a HUGE rating on something......er...more worthwhile?

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    Thanks for the further info Vinnie

    I shall bear all this in mind, and may even try a more sensible experiment in the future

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    I really should start making money from this blog now...lol.....here's another No.1 rating, and I didn't even try for this....


    (Edited a day later: It would appear my screenprint of me in the No.1 rating slot on Yahoo no longer appears, to me, anyway. So, if it's still here you can still see it....if you can't see it - that's because it's no longer here - some sort of Forum cennsorship or technical issue?)

    Surprisingly, not even Yahoo were in the top five for their own product
    Last edited by hello2paul; Nov 20, 2004 at 02:23.

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    Wow. Thats pretty crazy.... I wonder why?...

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    Max,

    From what I understand,

    1. Yahoo likes keywords and phrases in blog titles & within the blog article body, and also the use of bold lettering.

    2. Google likes links more.

    3. Blogs are ideally structured, (in general), because they contain lots of links, and you can "place" your keywords in blog titles and the main body of the blog to make the blog more acceptable to search enignes.

    But, why I should be able to climb to the top of tree, (particularly with the Yahoo Messenger search), is still a mystery to me - but could become a useful tool if I want to sell anyhting "wierd" on my blog - as I certainly have a lot of interesting keywords finding my blog


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