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    The next version of IE

    Will the next version of IE fix the 'box model' problem. How about other known issues?

    Also, are there plans to be more standards compliant in the next version? I'd like to try a few things that I read about in HTML Utopia: Designing Without Tables, but they were listed as not supported by IE.

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    The next "version" of MSIE isn't slated to come out until Longhorn is released which will probably be 2006. Microsoft has stated that MSIE will no longer be release independant of the OS this means that to get the new MSIE one would have to buy Longhorn once it is released.

    All bets are off as to what rendering issues will or will not be addressed in the new IE. Microsoft probably doesn't really know.
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    It's up in the air. But I would have to believe that it will offer full CSS2 support and the Document Object Model, too. Once they do that you'll really see some cool stuff.

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    Why not check out the IE Team's Blog?

    http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/

    They say the most popular suggestions for the User Experience include:

    • Tabbed browsing (far and away the most requested UI feature)
    • Richer popup blocking (more than whatís in XPSP2)
    • Better printing (donít chop off the right inch of the page, etc)
    • Richer, easier Favorites
    • FavIcon fixed and used in relevant places in the UI
    • Inline search (search field in the IE chrome)
    • Richer Find dialog and functionality
    • Find as you type
    • Page Zoom
    • Better keyboard support
    • Roaming of settings / favorites / history
    • Skins / Themes
    • Mouse gestures
    • Richer Download Manager functionality
    • Better ability to delete browsing history / cookies / autocomplete / forms data
    • Richer (and better documented) UI extensibility for toolbars, menus, right-click menus, etc.
    They have a feature request wiki at: http://channel9.msdn.com/wiki/defaul...eatureRequests

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    SitePoint Wizard silver trophy KLB's Avatar
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    Hmm... it sounds like a Firefox or Opera cloan with Active-X.
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    The box model error is already fixed in IE6, unless you force it into "quirks mode".
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    Quote Originally Posted by scattermachine
    Will the next version of IE fix the 'box model' problem. How about other known issues?
    IE6 uses the correct box model as long as you're working with a recent standard like HTML 4.01.

    Edit:

    Beaten!

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    Quote Originally Posted by W. Luke
    • Tabbed browsing (far and away the most requested UI feature)
    In typical Microsoft fashion they contradict themselves. When FF1.0 was released they said that users didn't really want tabbed browsing and that it wasn't a popular feature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stymiee
    In typical Microsoft fashion they contradict themselves. When FF1.0 was released they said that users didn't really want tabbed browsing and that it wasn't a popular feature.
    Ya, their just a bunch of flip-flopers
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    Quote Originally Posted by stymiee
    In typical Microsoft fashion they contradict themselves. When FF1.0 was released they said that users didn't really want tabbed browsing and that it wasn't a popular feature.
    Understand that the IE blog and Channel9 get request from highly technical people. Would your average Joe want tabbed browsing? That's another question that's not answered by the team blog or Channel9.

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    It seems every browser debate comes down to, "What would the average Joe say/want?". And everyone seems to have an opinion on it but does anyone really know?

    Just a random thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stymiee
    It seems every browser debate comes down to, "What would the average Joe say/want?". And everyone seems to have an opinion on it but does anyone really know?
    My wife's about as "average" a computer user as you can get (she hates the damned machines and all the time I spend on them). She's grown to like tabbed browsing because it means she can be on HGTV.com and discovery.com at the same time

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    Could be worse. She could be on a fan site for Jude Law or Orlando Bloom like my wife.

    Ironically she's "above average" tech wise but doesn't like tabs. Maybe I need to trade her in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stymiee
    Could be worse. She could be on a fan site for Jude Law or Orlando Bloom like my wife.

    Ironically she's "above average" tech wise but doesn't like tabs. Maybe I need to trade her in?
    Off Topic:

    I've lost my faith in Jersey girls

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    Quote Originally Posted by stymiee
    Could be worse. She could be on a fan site for Jude Law or Orlando Bloom like my wife.

    Ironically she's "above average" tech wise but doesn't like tabs. Maybe I need to trade her in?
    If she sees this, your oh so dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vgarcia
    Understand that the IE blog and Channel9 get request from highly technical people. Would your average Joe want tabbed browsing? That's another question that's not answered by the team blog or Channel9.
    My wife uses Firefox and she still opens a new window for every website. I have shown her how to use tabs, but it is just easier for her to open a new window from the taskbar's Quicklaunch and continue.
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    It seems every browser debate comes down to, "What would the average Joe say/want?". And everyone seems to have an opinion on it but does anyone really know?
    Yeah - but its not the average joe who goes about writing active x hacks to infiltrate your machine ...

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    MS kinda (works about 50% of the time for me) "tabs" IE and other apps in Window's taskbar.


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