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    Pop-Ins vs. Pop-up, pop-unders

    As im informed, then pop-ins cant be blocked, so how to they perform (CTR and payouts) compared with pop-ups and pop-unders?
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    They can't be blocked YET (and will probably be harder to block than popups from a technological standpoint). However, there are some things you cannot do with them... One of these is making them into an equivalent of popunders - windows that don't obscure your content right away. Also, you have to make a real effort to make them not too annoying - such as allowing users to move them around (and even then, they are still constrained by your window) and sometimes minimize them for later.

    If you ask me, popins are much more annoying than popups/unders, and have a much greater potential to drive away your visitors. I believe they are currently under-priced for the annoyance factor they create. For example, FastClick's InVue format is currently paying out about $2 CPM for me, compared to the almost $4 I get for their popunders

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    Quote Originally Posted by wide
    As im informed, then pop-ins cant be blocked,
    They can be easily blocked by disabling javascript.

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    They can be easily blocked by disabling javascript.
    Just as banners can be easily blocked by turning off images.

    Realistically though, not a lot of people browse the web with javascript, cookies or images disabled. These numbers are so small you can pretty much discount them

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    Quote Originally Posted by levik
    Just as banners can be easily blocked by turning off images.

    Realistically though, not a lot of people browse the web with javascript, cookies or images disabled. These numbers are so small you can pretty much discount them
    It's somewhere between 10 and 13 percent for Javascript being turned off. Should that now be "discounted" too?

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    Those 10-13 percent proberly also has images/banners turned off, so it dosent make that big of a difference.

    I dont find pop-ins as annoying as popups/unders, they just need to have a big visible "close button".
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    across my sites, its 2% that have javascript disabled (or it was when I was using a counter that counted that stat..)

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    As with everything different audineces will have this number completely differently. I think that over 99% of today's web users not only have no idea how to disable javascript, but also have very vague notion of what it is.

    Of course if your site is dedicated to Lynx tips and tricks, your portion of javascriptless visitors will probably be above average. I use javascripting heavily on my sites, and don't believe it drives away too many people. Given that most standard ads (banners, scrapers, pops and adsense) also rely on javascript, I don't think anyone is sorry to lose these people anyway from an ad revenue standpoint.

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