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    Question IE Rendering Problem

    Hello everyone -

    I am pretty new to *** CSS based sites so I am hitting some walls that I am sure are spawned out of my lack of knowledge of CSS.

    Go here in Mozilla -

    Then check it in IE.

    Here is the CSS code:

    It's messy right now and I plan to clean it up and organize it but you CSS gurus should be able to make heads and tails of it.

    Thanks for any help you can offer!


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    Occasionally ie looses track of where it is when you have absolutely placed elements first in the html before static elements (sometimes affects mozilla also) even though it shouldn't make any difference it does. I always try to make sure that absolutely placed elements come after the static placed elements in the html so that they can't have any effect.

    Just move the absolute elements to the end of the html and then change the z-index on subcontent.
    #subcontent {
     position: relative;
     visibility: visible;
     z-index: auto;
     width: 565px;
     margin-top: 175px;
     left: 60px;
    <DIV id="subcontent"><IMG src="" width="565" height="8"> 
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    The page will now display correctly. This will have the added benefit of bringing the content higher in the html so that search engines see it earlier and screen readers don't have to real all the headers before they get to content etc.
    However if you want to keep a logical order to your page then make sure that your header container isn't absoultely placed and that it has a suitableheight to take up the screenspace so that other elements can follow logically without absolute postioning.
    As the header is first on the page then it doesn't need to be placed absolutely anyway, but you can of course absolutely place the internal header elements on top of it. This way you preserve the flow of the document and things can follow one after the other with explicit positioning.
    If that all seems like too much work then you could just change the subcontents margin:top:175px to top:175px and that will move it relatively and place it below the header. However, that means that all following content will need to be inside the subcontent div otherwise it will overlap by the amount that it has been relatively positioned.
    Hope that doesn't sound too confusing ;)

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    Thanks Paul!! Worked great!


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