The Top ways to get a High Ranking

**fatnewt** · Sep 22, 2004 16:36

Where are you getting this? The toolbar is known to guess PR on occassion, but as far as actual PR is concerned, you get it the same way you normally. I've never seen anything that proves directory structure actually influences SERPs.

I don't see why it would, do you? How would that help show what content is most relevant? That's an internal decision that doesn't dictate relevance of content. Links do, though, so I'd be more inclined to believe that PR is divided by links alone and that directory structure is irrelevant. And evidence I've seen seems to agree.

In terms of the link titles -- have you ever seen the title attribute help Google understand the context of a link? No offense, but how you feel about something can be very different from what actually occurs.

**I, Brian** · Sep 23, 2004 06:25

Just because the toolbar guesses a PR value, doesn't mean to say that the page actually has that value.

**Pedro Monteiro** · Sep 23, 2004 07:16

Originally Posted by TBF

In response to fatnewt:

If the inner child page has no links from external sites, then it will normally inherit the parent's PageRank, n-1 style. Eg: www.example.org may be PR7, www.example.org/new_content.html will get PR6.

And yes, I am referring to the title attribute of HREFs. I feel these do help Google understand the context of your links.

I have actually stated this in the past has well, but the effect the anchor title attribute has on google is not very clear.

**flyer727** · Sep 24, 2004 09:26

I'm amazed at the obsession with links here, since that's NOT the most important thing with Google. If it were, explain how I can have pages that rank very well but have very few links to them.

PageRank is also overrated as far as its importance in how well you do in the search results.

**Pedro Monteiro** · Sep 24, 2004 11:08

flyer727, it's not about quantity, it's about the importance of the pages that link to you.

**stymiee** · Sep 24, 2004 11:16

Originally Posted by flyer727

I'm amazed at the obsession with links here, since that's NOT the most important thing with Google. If it were, explain how I can have pages that rank very well but have very few links to them.

There can be a variety of explanation, none of which diminish the value of incomming links.

**Dano** · Sep 24, 2004 12:26

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I think that s the best explanation about what happen in the SEO real world.

regards,

**gex6** · Sep 26, 2004 08:15

I'm curious... what are back links? I've looked alot of places and can't find what it means

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**stymiee** · Sep 26, 2004 08:16

Backlinks are links on other websites pointing towards your own. They are also known as Incomming links.

**Bojhan** · Sep 26, 2004 10:00

Altrough it is pretty difficult with flash menus to let bots navigate your website

**gex6** · Sep 26, 2004 10:17

oh... I see

. Thanks.

**johnn** · Sep 26, 2004 23:56

How about reciprocal linking? Does Google gives a site higher rank and therefore more traffic if your site has a linking resource page or a linking directory? (Let's just say we don't count the traffic when users visits a link page and click on an URL.)

**fatnewt** · Sep 27, 2004 04:28

No. Google doesn't give you any credit (or penalty) for linking out... you only gain rank by getting links in from other sites.

(Although if you really want to get into it, linking out decreases the value of each link back to pages within your own site, therefore decreasing your overall PageRank average compared to if you had no links out... but don't worry too much about that--just try to have more internal links than external ones on each page if you're concerned.

**vgarcia** · Sep 27, 2004 05:36

Originally Posted by Bojhan

Altrough it is pretty difficult with flash menus to let bots navigate your website

Then add an HTML-based navigation system elsewhere on your site. Flash is meant to have an HTML alternate anyway; why would you alienate people who choose to disable Flash? (And don't give me that "who would disable Flash?" line. Lots of businesses disable plugins for security purposes.)

**stymiee** · Sep 27, 2004 06:47

Originally Posted by vgarcia

Then add an HTML-based navigation system elsewhere on your site. Flash is meant to have an HTML alternate anyway; why would you alienate people who choose to disable Flash? (And don't give me that "who would disable Flash?" line. Lots of businesses disable plugins for security purposes.)

Or just don't have it installed like my Mom's browser or my Linux install here at work.

**Bojhan** · Sep 28, 2004 11:05

Indeed, well that is indeed a possble option, it was just an example for people who really implent everything in there site with flash. Altrough thats never a good option.

**Net Stuff** · Sep 28, 2004 16:24

Are Webrings a source of external links? are they of any use?

**stymiee** · Sep 28, 2004 16:27

Webrings, although unprofessional looking, are an excellent way to get incomming links.

**vgarcia** · Sep 28, 2004 18:28

Originally Posted by Bojhan

Indeed, well that is indeed a possble option, it was just an example for people who really implent everything in there site with flash. Altrough thats never a good option.

Most people building Flash sites know that search engines have a hard time indexing their content. If they don't know, they'll learn it the hard way

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**creedence** · Sep 28, 2004 22:55

first of all choose your domain rigjht! is better if include your key word, for exemple if your key word is cosmetic surgery you could choose something like cosmetic-surgery-doctors.com/info/org !got it?

**sparti** · Sep 29, 2004 05:01

just to add another perspective-

inbound links, directories and unique content. Not the type that is cut and pasted from other sites. the latest research I read is yahoo looks for articles approximately 942 words in length and google is 1200 words to be considered relevant. key word density varies.

**Swanny** · Oct 1, 2004 11:39

Google penalized me on one of my sites. I had a good ranking but I added a link to each of my sites on each page. Well I think they saw it as spam and now I'm struggling to get back my good ranking. I still get good traffic from MSN & Yahoo.... So I'm trying to ensure I have good content and am trying to get backlinks where appropriate.

**Spin-Zero** · Oct 1, 2004 21:33

Has anyone mentioned backlinks yet??

**fryman** · Oct 1, 2004 22:12

Originally Posted by Swanny

Google penalized me on one of my sites. I had a good ranking but I added a link to each of my sites on each page. Well I think they saw it as spam and now I'm struggling to get back my good ranking. I still get good traffic from MSN & Yahoo.... So I'm trying to ensure I have good content and am trying to get backlinks where appropriate.

You must be careful, Google could see this as a link farm, a few sites linked together. That IS penalized.