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    Diffrent install paths? Although your going to have a time configuring your webserver to detect which version you want to use for each script

    The joys of upgrading then making sure all your OOP code will port successfully...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thor@iway.na
    How can one run PHP v4.8 & v5 concurrently on one Win2K machine?
    You could always install two Apache(s) and configure the first to run on port 8080 with PHP5, and the second on port 80 with PHP4. There are other ways to configure one server to execute both php4 and php5, though. I'm not certain but I think you could install them as modules and execute them separately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lieut_data

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    Now all we need is a first class GUI toolkit and we'll be set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johan Sundkvist
    You could always install two Apache(s) and configure the first to run on port 8080 with PHP5, and the second on port 80 with PHP4. There are other ways to configure one server to execute both php4 and php5, though. I'm not certain but I think you could install them as modules and execute them separately.

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    Why not simply use separate extensions to determine what version of PHP to use...

    Give your php5 applications a php5 extension.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W. Luke
    Why not simply use separate extensions to determine what version of PHP to use...

    Give your php5 applications a php5 extension.
    I should have added that, shouldn't I?

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    Better question: any way to get PHP4 and PHP5 running on the same server using IIS? Don't suggest switching to apache, or putting up an apache server, as I have a number of sites running on IIS and prefer to mirror production environments in development.

    Big problem in any case is that the php.ini is the same for both installs, yet one must use different extensions for each.

    In any case, if history is any guide, I would not want to use PHP5 on windows until 5.2 or so as it gets the least debugging in the development process.

    WWB

    NOTE: Should research before I post. Trick is easy: run php as a CGI extension, with the -c INI_FILENAME switch. Doh.
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    Fantastic! I think most hosts will add it when it reaches at least one more revision.

    I better go brush up on the extra OOP syntax then

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    Better question: any way to get PHP4 and PHP5 running on the same server using IIS?
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    Give your php5 applications a php5 extension.

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    Harry posted a tutorial on PHP4 + PHP5 + IIS in his blog.

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    Might wanna wait a bit as bug reports still coming in ...

    HTTP authentication is broken. Most of my work on the HTTP Authenication ... So I am gonna wait till 5.0.1 or 5.0.2 ...

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    I agree. Always good to wait a bit after the first release to get all of the bug reports in.
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    Darchangel: file extensions are the least of one's worries. The big problem on windows is the INI file. Which is solvable (see above). File extensions could be .stupidhardcodedconfigfiles for all it mattered.

    Harry F's article used apache and some apache specific features to get around the above problems. Not a good solution IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coo_t2
    Now all we need is a first class GUI toolkit and we'll be set.

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    To me that goes beyond the scope of PHP. It was intended to be a web scripting language and personally I feel that making it something like Python would hinder it more than help it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hartmann
    To me that goes beyond the scope of PHP. It was intended to be a web scripting language and personally I feel that making it something like Python would hinder it more than help it.
    I think what will hinder PHP in the future is if it isn't a good choice for writing desktop/web hybrid apps. Giving PHP good GUI development capabilities doesn't mean you have to take away from its role as a web scripting language.
    I think Zend should look into funding a project(maybe even PHP-GTK 2) , because being able to write good desktop GUIs would make PHP a more attractive development platform(or part of the platform).
    I think PHP would be better for making these types of apps than the alternatives. PHP's interpreted and highly portable nature would make it easy to distribute your client to pretty much everyone out there, as opposed to if you used a client built using .NET, you could only distribute to Windows users(and maybe Linux users who are using Mono), and the required download would probably be more lightweight and an all around easier process than installing Java.

    --ed

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    Great news!!!

    Now the countdown for servers to update starts running, a looooong countdown, but started running

    I've been playing around with PHP5 for a while, in a hosted site, within the next 3 months I will be upgrading my localhost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wwb_99
    Darchangel: file extensions are the least of one's worries. The big problem on windows is the INI file. Which is solvable (see above). File extensions could be .stupidhardcodedconfigfiles for all it mattered.
    sorry for taking a cheap shortcut instead of explaining myself. my point is: you could tell ISS to use php4 (in say - c:\php\) to parse all .php files and tell it to use php5 (in c:\php5\) to parse all .php5 files. this way they can both run on the same server (which i thought was the dilemma you were trying to solve)

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    I won't update my server until 5.0.1 at the earliest.

    Not like most of the software I use like cPanel and Ioncube Loaders works with it yet anyway.
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    I just finished a preliminary test of my flagship webware on PHP5. Things are looking good. So far the backward compatibility looks pretty solid.
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    Good..

    Yes it is best to wait for some time before using it in production environment.

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    Finally , now the next test is seeing if we can get it running smoothly with cPanel.
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    I think this very site has an article on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hartmann
    To me that goes beyond the scope of PHP. It was intended to be a web scripting language and personally I feel that making it something like Python would hinder it more than help it.
    Quote Originally Posted by coo_t2
    I think what will hinder PHP in the future is if it isn't a good choice for writing desktop/web hybrid apps. Giving PHP good GUI development capabilities doesn't mean you have to take away from its role as a web scripting language.
    I think Zend should look into funding a project(maybe even PHP-GTK 2) , because being able to write good desktop GUIs would make PHP a more attractive development platform(or part of the platform).
    I think PHP would be better for making these types of apps than the alternatives. PHP's interpreted and highly portable nature would make it easy to distribute your client to pretty much everyone out there, as opposed to if you used a client built using .NET, you could only distribute to Windows users(and maybe Linux users who are using Mono), and the required download would probably be more lightweight and an all around easier process than installing Java.

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    I also see a point in adding a good cross-platform GUI kit to PHP for hybrid web/desktop applications since the programmer(s) probably want to use the same language for both interfaces, but neither .NET or Java is "something like Python" in my mind. A Python program would be just as portable and lightweight as a PHP program and there are already many GUI modules available for Python.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thor@iway.na
    How can one run PHP v4.8 & v5 concurrently on one Win2K machine?
    Not sure about that... at least CGI maybe.

    Norm

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    Quote Originally Posted by npeelman
    Not sure about that... at least CGI maybe.

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    I have heard that it is more difficult to getting it to run on windows, not sure how it can be done...
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