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    Fireworks vs. Photoshop

    For the past year or so I have used Macromedia's Fireworks for all my web graphics design. I have heard that Photoshop is a much better program for this, but I was wondering why? Is there anything specific that you can do in Photoshop and not in Fireworks?
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    I think Photoshop is good...

    But 1 thing...

    PhotoShop is heavy program and FireWorks is Soft.. open quickly ....

    and i think Photoshop have alot feautures..

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    Fireworks is more of an easy to use program (relatively speaking), where as Photoshop is for dedicated professionals. I have used both and like Photoshop a little bit more, but I haven't had the money to buy it. I am going to try GIMP and maybe PSP to see if they have a few more options.

    I have Fireworks 4, and worked with Photoshop 7, so not sure how that would compare to the current versions.
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    SitePoint Zealot Lauren's Avatar
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    Forgot to mention, I went from Fireworks 4 to Photoshop 7 (at work) to Fireworks 4 (changed universities and jobs). I was happy with FW until I got used to photoshop and now I am always wondering where ___ tool went. Not being able to wrap text around a circle has got to be the most annoying thing for me. I want my smudge tool back too!
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    Re-Install it

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    I never has PS at home to begin with, but I was at work so much I got used to it. So no re-installs . Maybe I can afford it if I work a lot this summer.
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    I have both...I'm not a guru by any means, but I know my way well around both programs and have been using them both for years.

    Quite frankly, I hate Photoshop for web design work. ImageReady is more suited to the task, but even that is just...well, not as good as Fireworks. Now on the other hand, Fireworks absolutely sucks for anything remotely related to photo editing. So, my opinion is that each program has its uses...but then again I may be biased, as I pretty much loathe every Adobe product except Photoshop.

    To Lauren, don't bother with GIMP. I've used it as well when I was on a computer without PS installed. The Linux version may be better, but the Windows version is absolutely horrible-- buggy, clunky, and it lacks features. There's a reason why it's free...

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    I personally prefer Photoshop over fireworks. I haven't really attempted to learn fireworks so i can't really compared, but i could be bothered learning photoshop so it's got to count for something...

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    I must say, I hate fireworks with a passion. I've always used photoshop since I started webdesign, but earlier this year I had no choice but to use fireworks. I can't stand it. There's so many things I know are easy to do in photoshop, that you simply can't do in fireworks.

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    Question: Can you make text wrap around something in PS (didn't have to do this when I was using it), or should I just go with illustrator? I really want to and haven't been able to get FW to do it (maybe my problem).
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    I feel really stupid, but I just figured out that you CAN attach text to a path in fireworks.
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    I use both programs at work. I have more experience with Photoshop. I have Photshop 7.0 on my Powerbook and Fireworks MX 2004. BTW, Fireworks MX 2004 is FAR better than previous version of FW so if you are using an old version of FW and you love it, I think you'll really enjoy using the latest version.

    In my opinion these too programs server different purposes. They each do certain things well and should be used accordingly. For creating web graphics, editing photos, and similar tasks Photoshop is far superior. For doing web page layout, simple buttons, text based graphics, etc. Fireworks has the edge. FW makes it very easy to create mockup files for clients. Photoshop will do most of the heavy lifting for creating logos, gradient buttons, photos, etc. The really cool thing about FW is that you can create a large high pixel count PS image, then import it into FW and sort of "draw" it to the exact size you want--it does a great job of resizing the image. You can control down to the pixel the size of the imported image. Slicing everything up and saving it out to multiple image files saves you a lot of time when you take the next step of converting your mockup into markup and css.

    FW has layers and frames which makes it nice when creating client mockups because you can have different states of the page or different pages all together in the same FW file on different frames.

    If I could only have one of these programs I'd choose Photoshop. But I'd try my hardest to have both!

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    Lauren,

    with the new (CS) version of Photoshop you can attach text to a path

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    each program has its plus and minus... in the end FW is good for graphics and photoshop is good for photography... I use both and I am very happy with them

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    I disagree, I think photoshop is great for graphics and photos.

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    photoshop is good for graphics... but it was created to manipulate photos... vice-versa on FW

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    Want some opinions? Read the first poll in this forum. As you can see the majority use Photoshop

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    Just wanted to say that I agree with the general opinion of this thread. I started off using Fireworks and when it comes to planning and laying out a web page, I don't think it can be beaten.

    However, as far as professional looking graphics go I think Photoshop beats it. It might be slightly harder to get the hang of but I just find the end results are better.

    Hope that helps!

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    i use fireworks and dreamweaver for my web design work. i found it pretty easy to make rollover images in fireworks and dreamweaver creates the javascript code for you because the applications are integrated. could i do this in photoshop?
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    Photoshop is a high-end graphics editing tool. Fireworks is a web graphics tool. They're not supposed to be compared. You should be comparing ImageReady to Fireworks really.

    Anyway, semantics aside (), Photoshop has some great features unique to it, however Fireworks (and I don't know why) gives much better compression. Always has and still does. So even if I work in Photoshop, I always export from Fireworks.


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    Photoshop has defenitely more features and is really awesome to use !!

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    The best tool is the one that YOU feel most comfortable with and allows you to perform the work you need to do.

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    ...but if that work is web work then.......

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    ...but if that work is web work then.......
    No, actually I feel that applies to anything.

    But...no one this thread has spoken more truth than you:

    You should be comparing ImageReady to Fireworks really.


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