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    Hi,

    I am having some Flash graphics created for one of my sites and was wondering, will most Internet users be able to see it?

    Anyone know the percentages?

    Just wondering...

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    Latest figures indicate the percentage is around 75-85%. MyComputer will give you a relatively decent idea.
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    It's probably more around 95%... It comes standard with all the new browsers, so I guess only those who use older versions will not be ready for Flash. But than you have to look at the audience. If you make a Flash site for 15-24 year olds your pretty save that everyone has the plugin installed. If you're going to 60+, you need to consider that they might have less experience with computers and might not know how to upgrade software.

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    It comes standard with all the new browsers
    I beg to differ, maybe it comes standard with IE and Netscape but not, for example, PWWebSpeak!

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    I believe Macromedia bods quoted 98% to me at a recent seminar, compared to around 70-80% for Javascript!...
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    Don't get too close, I bite! Nicky's Avatar
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    Of course Macromedia are going to quote high numbers. they want to convince people that everyone is using their products!

    I have been to a Macromedia seminar before, they are a mega sales fest!

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    Its been my experience that for all the people who have it installed, only about 30% of those actualy like to use it when offered the choice between an html and flash version of the same site. Go figure

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    I agree that if I have a chocie I tend to go for the HTML version!

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    Originally posted by Nicky
    I agree that if I have a chocie I tend to go for the HTML version!
    Like me. And you don't really need to search for a reason, because most of Flash-sites are slow, bloated and hard to use. That's why I prefer HTML instead, since it's usually lighter and faster.

    You can do pretty nice things with Flash, but it shouldn't be used just because you can use it.
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    And me too. If I had plenty of time to spare and was tuning out then I might consider the Flash version. But when I want information fast then I want to get to it fast, and the HTML version suffices for me.

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    Flash is cool it's neat but only about the first time after that is kind of old and slow to load and not many people care to see it again! Although I'm not a big Flash guru I'll give you some tips I can offer!

    1) If your wanting just a nice flash intro use cookies so that the person don't have to set through it each time. And they can just jump stright to the main page.

    2) If you have a HTML site now keep it and make a flash site also letting people choose from eaither HTML or Flash.

    Just some pointers I have something to consider!

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    I agree with you! I think that the ultimate word here is CHOICE! We must give users a choice and let them decide what they want rather than imposing it upon them!

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    I think an even equally important word here is AUDIENCE.

    If you have a article based content site, Flash is definitely not the way to go.

    If you are catering to a more web savvy group of users, if you are showcasing skills (net-firm site or portfolio), if you are creating an 'experience' - then definitely Flash is the way to go.

    Would http://requiemforadream.com be as effective as it is if it was all HTML? COULD it even be that effective? I doubt it.
    eh?

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    Originally posted by singularity


    Would http://requiemforadream.com be as effective as it is if it was all HTML? COULD it even be that effective? I doubt it.
    Fantastic use of flash - I too think that people can often be guilty of "flashturbation", but this site rocks - has it been submitted to Macromedia for their award schemes?

    (ps downloaded in what I imagine the designer considers "real time" on a standard 56k modem)

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    Flash can be cool in small doses, but designers get carried away and overload everything -a classic case of 'build more roads and they fill up with more cars'. Or, 'Your expenses always exceed your outcome'. You get the idea. Even when we're all on broadband watching live video it'll still be too slow. He said cynically.


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