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  • FrontPage 2000

    17 14.41%
  • Dream Weaver

    82 69.49%
  • GoLive

    4 3.39%
  • Homesite

    9 7.63%
  • Visual Interdev

    2 1.69%
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    I think psalzer hit the nail right on the head. Congrats.

    It's okay to discuss features, and what you like/dislike about each editor, but let's not try to rank them. It's like ranking the top five songs of all time. It's different according to different people and their styles.

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    Originally posted by wert
    The Dreamweaver 4 / Fireworks 4 combo can't be beat!
    I have to disagree...

    Dreamweaver UltraDev 4/Fireworks 4 tops the cake! I went to a Macromendia seminar in LA last week and was just bowled over by what I saw. UltraDev makes database programming a possibility for those of us that know HTML inside out but don't have time to figure out all the server side stuff. It codes ASP, JSP, and CF (they just merged with Allaire). They showed how to make an entire shopping cart system from scratch, including an interface to update the database online. In about 15 seconds, they wrote 300+ lines of database coding. I guess you could do all that stuff by hand, but why?

    One of the question I see here the most is how to do those nifty drop down menus. Fireworks takes all of the technical stuff out of it. You can put together a drop down menu in a couple of steps and import it seemlessly into DW. I thought I had died and gone to heaven when I saw that!

    For all of the "code geeks" out there (myself included), DW writes clean, easy to edit code. You can see what you are doing, as you are doing it. No proprietary tags stuck in. I teach web design and have my students use notepad because I think it is the best way to learn, but when you are past the basics, it sure is nice to have a program as powerful as DW take care of some of those details. I am in the position of having to teach a 12 week Front Page 2000 class next week. It will be like a 12 week root canal! DW has my vote!
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    I agree! However, be careful when using those nifty drop down menus that fireworks 4 generates. To have them work correctly you need to do two things. Upgrade your fireworks to 4.02 from macromedias site. The "readme" tells you not to export the drop down menus directly to your site in dreamweaver 4. If you do, they will be messed up in some way trust me. You have to export them to a separate folder, then choose "insert fireworks html" from Dreamweaver 4 and then all will be well. They look nice and work perfectly then.

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    I voted for Homesite. Dreamweaver is OK but I got sick of my CSS stuff not showing up etc.
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    Originally posted by superbird
    Dreamweaver is OK but I got sick of my CSS stuff not showing up etc.
    Urk. You can say that again That's one of my very few complaints about DW.
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    I Myself Use Dreamweaver alot. I like it you can really "Feel The Power", however I am not sure it is for the novice. Although I am not a microsoft fan Frontpage is so far the only MS program that Ive seen that works.
    I started out using frontpage but I feel as your knowledge of html grows frontpage can get annoying because it will sometimes undo everything you hand coded.
    The solution I usually use is i do my table layout and general forms in frontpage then I bring it in to dreamweaver and make the site. And let me say I have long been a photoshop fan the integration between dreamweaver and fireworks is quite impressive.

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    If ya use dreamweaver 4, you'll find it *much* easier to do your table and forms layouts with than FP2000.

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    as soon as the funds are there i really would like to have a wack at ultradev. But since everyone said how nice dreamweaver and fireworks went hand and hand I gave it a try, got addicted and then my trial period ended so I just bought that. So I guess next is ultradev.

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    I just downloaded Dreamweaver 4 and I like it very, very much! I have decided on special cases to use fp200, and dreamweaver4. DW4 is going to be my most used web-editor. Frontpage is for them special cases, when I have to update all my includes, (likea dW4 template). Yes I like dreamweaver4 way better than front page 2000, but my site will not live without fp too. DW4 is hella cool.
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    I use Visual Studio(Interdev) 6 (yes I did buy it b4 you ask)... It's a bit of a pain tho coz it comes with about 20 cd's but only 5 of these are in a case!

    I like the fact that you get a dragdrop window, a code window, and best of all an IE (what ever version you have installed) window. Oh and the Jscript / JavaScript / VBScript debugging is nice too
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    What would be on these 20 cd's? How much did it cost?
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    Whats on the CD's

    1. Visual Studio 6.0 CD 1
    2. Visual Studio 6.0 CD 1
    3. Visual J++ 6.0
    4. MSDN Library CD 1
    5. MSDN Library CD 2
    6. MSDE For Visual Studio Developer Training
    7. Visual Studio Service Pack 3
    8. Visual Studio Service Pack 4
    9. MSDE For Visual Studio
    10. Microsoft Windows 2000 Developer's Readiness Kit
    11. Microsoft Windows NT Service Pack 4 12/98


    Well so 20 CD's was a little bit of an exageration But there is 11, and you can phone up MS and get even more sent to you

    Got it on student licence (i'm a grubby student you see) a year ago (ish). Cost me 75 crisp clean sheets, I couldn't stomach the 700ish squid for the full licence version. The only downside is that i'm not allowed to sell any software that I write with it.

    I mainly use Visual Studio for practising Java and Visual Basic.
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    Although i don't know what the current price is
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    Drinky,

    I have the same set.

    Only it's Enterprise .
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    I'm a little late on this but what about HoTMetaL pro? You gotta like this one just from the name alone.

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    Originally posted by Jiminsd
    I'm a little late on this but what about HoTMetaL pro? You gotta like this one just from the name alone.
    *wants to slap you* lol..

    Never judge a book by it's cover. Just because it has a cool name and some flashy graphics behind it doesn't matter if it doens't have the substance to back it up.
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    DreamWeaver UltraDev.... All the ease of DW and all the scripting ease of InterDev. I don't think I could live without it now...
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    on seocnd thoughts..there ain't a 'BEST' editor...
    "Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world."
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    I do mainly ASP coding. I've found the Dreamweaver UltraDev and Homesite combination is cool. They're the best web RAD tools out there.

    You can easily create all the HTML and some of the server-side code in UltraDev which is a dope WYSIWIG editor. Then quickly switch to Homesite to work on your server-side VBScript and client-side JavaScript in a great code editor!

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    aha! Dreamweaver r0x0rs. Curious enough, we have frontpage strictly forbidden in the office because it produces very messed code and fooks up folder structure.

    I only misses a crunching HTML option in Dreamweaver... it saves up a lot of space/bandwidth when you are high on traffic!
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    The site management is nice in Dreamweaver, too. Sitewide find and replace comes in handy sometimes and updating all links if you rename or move a file is a good thing, too. I also use the templates for two sites where SSI isn't an option for navigation. As a matter of fact, I was kind of wondering about this - in one case I use a DW template because I use image rollovers for the main navigation. It seems to be kind of pointless to do this with SSI because of the pre-load stuff in the body tag. Is there something I'm missing there that would make it more practical to use SSI?

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    To those of you who use dreamweaver,
    i am using dw3, what are the features in dw4 that make it worth the upgrade,
    i still find myself using PS instead of FW to edit my graphics in DW3,(maybe i am missing something, but i'd like to save files other than png format, since netscape routinely dumps them or scatter them all over the place)) any improvement there?
    And i do agree with a lot of you, that i have not found 1 single editor that does it all.
    As much as i FP drives me nuts, i do use it for certain functions.

    Hardy

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    You can save files in all the usual formats in Fireworks. You just have to use the File/Export option. Other than that I couldn't comment, not being enough of a graphics person to have scratched the surface of either PS of FW, but I use them both for various things.

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    ugh @ partisan web design

    "macromedia rocks" "frontpage sucks"...

    I'm not even gonna get into this right now.
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    er - you just did

    Can't believe this debate still lives, it's just childish....

    (er, mm all the way btw)

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