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    Got an IE2.0. I can't post in web-design forum. After clicking
    new post, browser kicks back to main forum list.
    Also, if anyone wants to test their web-site with IE2.0, let me know
    BTW... webmaster your javascript all over the place...
    <!-- --> still usefull.... did u guys ever seen sitepoint under IE2.0?
    I bet not... what a mess Oh.. take a look at
    http://javagui.com/sitepoint.jpg

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    I wonder how many people still use IE 2.0??? I am not to worried about it on my sites... I don't think the people of sitepoint are to worried about it either???
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    HEY, WHO TURNED OUT THE LIGHTS?!?
    Easy come easy go!!!
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    Originally posted by CryingWolf
    I wonder how many people still use IE 2.0??? I am not to worried about it on my sites... I don't think the people of sitepoint are to worried about it either???
    Well, my parents use actually IE3.0, which has been more than enough for their needs for few years. Unfortunately certain sites (such as online bank etc etc.) have stopped supporting under version 4 browsers due to lack of encryption and security functions.

    Sure, update your browser, but atleast I don't want to use latest IE with 133MHz AMD-K5 and with 16MB of ram

    Perhaps those who use older computers?

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    What a mess, I suggest you upgrade big time!

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    Ditto from me. You're wasting your time with that old browser, it's not worth it.

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    Have you thought about using the Opera browser? Wth v5 they now do a free version, which carries an advert. You can buy an ad free version for a small price.

    Opera's known for being quick even on older systems.

    http://www.opera.com

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    Originally posted by hmahonen
    Originally posted by CryingWolf
    I wonder how many people still use IE 2.0??? I am not to worried about it on my sites... I don't think the people of sitepoint are to worried about it either???
    Well, my parents use actually IE3.0, which has been more than enough for their needs for few years. Unfortunately certain sites (such as online bank etc etc.) have stopped supporting under version 4 browsers due to lack of encryption and security functions.

    Sure, update your browser, but atleast I don't want to use latest IE with 133MHz AMD-K5 and with 16MB of ram

    Perhaps those who use older computers?
    Newer systems / Newer browsers can make the internet a more enjoyable experience. Look, simply put there is a reason why really old machines become doorstops, boat anchors, etc... You can get a pretty nice system for under a thousand and a mid system for under $400 / free with some deals.

    Obviously IE3.0 is not enough if your parents want to do online banking and the banking website is telling them they need a better browser.

    As a designer I would love to support every browser and browser version but this is simply not possable, unless your site is just text and very boring.

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    Phew, I haven't heard the term, "IE 2.0" in a long time.
    Download the newest one: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/
    I also suggest Opera for older Computers; it's just as fast.
    "If it's taking up my time, then it must be good!" -Rocko

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    You can basically divide the internet community into 2 groups of people. Techies and Everyone Else.

    Now techies have been online longer than others, 4-5 years +. They've also had computers for longer and know how to use computers better.

    Everyone else hasn't been online that long, 2-3 years maybe. They don't know much about computers.

    Now for the techies they've upgraded their browser many times because they like to stay on top of technology and its not hard for them to do it with their computer knowledge.

    For everyone else they don't really update their browser but since microsoft bundles IE with everything they get updates anyways. And it doesn't matter since when they bought their computer chances are it already had IE 4 installed on it.

    So no one should be left using anything less than IE 4 or NS 4.

    But we know this is not the case. There could be some computer illiterate people who still use windows 3.11, why this would be who knows but hey it could happen. Likewise they could still be using IE 2.0.

    But realistically if someone has been using computers long enough to have ie 2 installed then they should have built up enough knowledge to go and upgrade it, at the very least they should have upgraded their computer long since.

    Is it worth it to code your site for less than 1/10th of a percent of people? I dont think so.

    Statistics from my site yesterday and today:

    MSIE v5.x 40.50% 2022
    AOL's Browser v6.x 17.91% 894
    AOL's Browser v5.x 13.16% 657
    Netscape v4.7 6.87% 343
    MSIE v4.x 5.47% 273
    Other Agents 4.85% 242
    Netscape v4.0 3.57% 178
    AOL's Browser v4.x 2.02% 101
    Netscape v4.6 2.02% 101
    Netscape v4.5 1.82% 91
    Netscape v5.x 0.44% 22
    Cache/Proxy server 0.42% 21
    Netscape v3.x 0.40% 20
    AOL's Browser v3.x 0.28% 14
    Border Manager 0.18% 9
    MSIE v3.x 0.08% 4
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    IE 2.0? I imagine that every site you browse looks absolutely hideous. I hope no one is still using that browser, otherwise I'll have to make my website "Stoneage Compatible"

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    Not really guys. You bet that I can upgrate my browser in a metter of minutes, specially I got 1,5mb DSL
    But I'm not going to. I'm using a Linux for 95% of my time, and there is Netscape 4.x and 6.0, and Opera,
    and some other browsers from KDE and GNOME, also StarOffice's browser (HTML 3.0).
    You just can't imagine how funny it is.
    Take a look:
    http://javagui.com/spforum.jpg
    this is this forum, 'post' page.
    Specially it's bad if web-master uses FP or DW.... lol.

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    holy $@##. I've tried to view in Netscape 2.01, and I got like
    30 JavaScript errors, from SitePoint, and Netscape crashed...

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    SitePoint mightn't look quite so bad in "stone age" browsers if they threw in a few more <!-- //--> comment tags. But, like you say, how many of SitePoint's readers are using anything less than a fourth generation browser, anyway?
    Ed Rands

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    Well, that's ok guys. I'm not asking anyone to fix this for me . It works under my Linux box quite nicely I think.
    I've always wanted to have all browser available for me to
    test my stuff on. Specially old one's. But I couldn't find anything less then 2.x ... 1.x is antique... Can you imagine to have 1.0 browser or even 0.x browser? It's the start of the universe!!! (Internet) It's like having something first in the world...

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    I remember using ie 1 and ns 1, of course that was on windows 3.11, a long long time ago.
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    Don't get too close, I bite! Nicky's Avatar
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    Ha ha at the university we were running Windows 3.11 not so long ago (last August).

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    Somewhere I have a copy of Netscape 2.0 (see my silly post in General Chat under "Internet Stories!") and SPRY Mosaic

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    I have Netscape 2 INSTALLED on my machine, well you never know do you?

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    Lets have a "Website that looks best in IE 2.0" Competition : ). That would be cool to see how well some of the websites today look under that old browser.
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    Well, there is plenty of sites that looks good in < 3.x browsers. Even graphical ones, like netscape.com etc.
    But, if 'webmaster' has never seen anything else then IE,
    Windows or FrontPage (even Dreamwaver), you'll get the result
    similar to the screenshots.
    - John.


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