pages showing funny in netscape?

[Janis]

Used bgproperties="fixed" but it's tiled in netscape and my text shifts to the left. I used tables. Can someone tell me how to make a fixed bg that will work for both netscape and ie. And a possible reason for shifting in netscape. Pointing to a tut would be wonderful, also.

[BC]

Simple, straight answer : you can't.

bgproperties is not supported by Netscape.

As for the text shifting, if you wouldn't mind posting a URL we'll all have a look at it and try to help you out Usually it's because of a closing HTML tag gone AWOL...

[Janis]

an example is @
http://www.u2carla.com
There is no fixed background, but the text shifts when viewed in netscape. I do realize now that I should have placed the   in my empty tables..tried that and it still shifted. This is my daughters site.
Thanks Janis

[Aepic]

Use a DIV with a z-index of 0 and Javascript to center your image. Use z-index(s) of 1+ in the rest of your page or if you aren't using divs for layout then enclose the rest of your page in a div with a z-index of 1 and no other attributes set. It's not a true background but it gets the same effect.

Aepic

[Janis]

Aepic,
Not sure I follow you. I used the div tag. But did not use z-index of "0". I have a bouncing bg script but haven't found a static one that is compatable with both browsers. Can you give me a short example of what you mean with the div z-index "0" Thanks
Janis

[Aepic]

God bless the American Education system...Please!

Sorry about that, I was thinking of a non-repeat positioned bg.

I just reread your post, very slowly this time, and I see what you're after. The best that you can do, as far as I can tell, is to set the image up in a div z-index to 0 and write a script to re-position the image on scrolls a la Geocities. It's cheezy sure, but throw a link to http://www.webstandards.org and all that eye strain from jumping images might do some good.

Aepic

Wish I could have helped more.

One last thought,leave in the bgproperties tag and only allow the js re-position to happen in NN.

[BC]

Aepic : FYI, it's possible to prevent tiling of backgrounds using the CSS attribute : background-repeat:none.

Janis : z-index is a style sheet attribute which determines the 'vertical positioning' of various 'styles' or 'layers'. What Aepic was trying to explain was that you could try and combine JavaScript and z-index properties to center an image so that it's centered on the page, doesn't move and acts like a background, then set the other z-index properties so that the text and images on your page is a 'level' above the image and will still function normally.

As for the shifting text... Here's the offending code :

<tr>
      <td width="378" height="119"><td width="178" height="119"><img src="carlalogo.gif" width="218" height="178" alt="" border="0"></td>
   </td>

You can't ensconce a TD inside another TD. You'd need to create a new table inside that TD for it to work properly.

Hope this helps.

[Janis]

Thanks BC..I'll fix that. I tried the background as you stated and used :no-repeat and it did not work. I'll try it that way and let you know if it works.
Look @ http://www.ferrinnkelsey.com/ with netscape. The intro page has a fixed bg of baloons, does not show @ all in netscape.
Thanks a lot
Janis