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    You could claim that they are violating the copyright of your page by creating a derivative work without your consent. /. users threatened to file a similar lawsuit when Deja.com started placing links to advertising in users' USENET posts. If you think it would be worth it, contact NBCI.com and send them a cease-and-desist letter.

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    I'm not sure that I understand what you're talking about.

    Are you saying that Flycast actually altered the content of your site, and remotely inserted keyword links within the content of your page?

    If so, can you post your URL here, so that we may see what's happening?
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    Isn't that tantamount to hacking?
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    It's tantamount to something - I'm just not sure what...

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    Was any of this described in the Flycast agreement? They may have an out if it was. They may be able to claim it's part of the Flycast service and you agreed to it when you signed up.

    Then again, I don't think (not a lawyer) one person can be bound to an agreement made by a second person to a third person.
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    That's just it...I have NO relationship with Flycast WHATSOEVER...

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    Er...isn't this like another site loading your site in a frame; it's annoying, but they don't actually alter your
    site i.e. change the page on the server? A better example is the translation service at go.com, they 're-present' your page in a different format. I'm sure it's annoying, but I'm not sure what you can do about it.

    Or have I missed something here?

    Please explain what, physically, NBCi do; are they a proxy service, or something?


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    If it is a load with in a frame as Tiger said you can get Javascript to easily detect and break out of the frame.
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    Personally, I think what they're doing is very unethical, and may very well be found to breach the intellectual property writes of webmaster and editors, but it only seems to happen to those people using the NBCi search box.

    I have no idea how many people have that on their browsers, but since they're probably aware of this happening, they may understand that these hyperlinks may not have been placed by yourself.

    There are a few applications circulating that do similar things (such as those that allow visitors to post their opinions of your site...on your site), etc. Fortunately, the only people who can see such virtual graffiti are others who use that application.

    The point is, its unlikely that publishers such as we will be able to eliminate this entirely, and if people are really interested in what NBCi has to offer, they'll probably be happy to use that search box. Most people, though, would not use a piece of garbage like that. Already, I would suggest that no-one participating in this thread would support NBCi's search box.
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    I've actually seen TV commercials for the NBCi toolbar... it's meant to provide relevant links to further information on any keyword on your computer, be it in an email, your word processor or your web browser.

    I don't know if this could be considered copyright infringement as it does not COPY your content, nor does the toolbar somehow hack into your website and actually alter the HTML files. It merely provides an avenue for getting more information about a topic....

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    Originally posted by Matt Mickiewicz


    I don't know if this could be considered copyright infringement as it does not COPY your content, nor does the toolbar somehow hack into your website and actually alter the HTML files. It merely provides an avenue for getting more information about a topic....

    No one said it hacks your website, what they said was that it creates an unauthorised derivative work from your website which is displayed in the browser. And that has to be copyright infringement, mayhaps.
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    One of the main problems I have with the "thing" is that a visitor to the site has no way of telling which links "I" created for them, and which links "NBCi" has created for them....

    Some of their links could be sending users to mis-leading information...

    Many of the links I saw were just plain irrelevant...

    In my opinion, this is, in fact, altering what I am trying to communicate on the page.

    I wouldn't care if it created a frame with additional links...but links "within" the page...nope

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