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    Netscape will not work with.....

    Hello,
    I am working on my sites icons. I have found that if you are using Netscape those icons become unclickable. The icons are located on the right side of the logo on my site: http://www.yourautoplace.com

    --------Here is the code that I am using-------
    <!---start map---->
    <map name=m>
    <area alt="Auctions" coords="300,110,106,76" href=http://abay.yourautoplace.com>
    <area alt=Chat coords="340,110,170,76" href=http://chat.yourautoplace.com>
    <area alt=E-mail coords="405,110,241,76" href=http://e-mail.yourautoplace.com>
    <area alt=Finance coords="460,110,342,76" href=http://news.yourautoplace.com/finance/index.html>
    <area alt=Forums coords="500,110,418,76" href=http://shop.yourautoplace.com/info/discounts.html>
    <area alt=calendar coords="520,110,550,76" href=http://yourautoplace.zzn.com/email/english/noframes/preferences/calendar_prf.asp></map>
    <img border=0 usemap="#m" src=http://yourautoplace.com/images/logos/m6v8b.jpg alt="YourAutoPlace.com">
    <!---end map---->

    Why are those icons unclickable if you are using Netscape?
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    [note: something like this would probably be better in the Browser Issues forum]

    Netscape 4.8 seems to be freaked out by the order you put the co-ordinates in. The HTML 4 spec (http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/...ml#adef-coords) says:
    The number and order of values depends on the shape being defined. Possible combinations:
    - rect: left-x, top-y, right-x, bottom-y.
    You have the co-ordinates in the order right-x, bottom-y, left-x, top-y (or, in at least one case, left-x, bottom-y, right-x, top-y)

    Other browsers seem to cope, but NN4.x gets confused.

    So: swap the co-ordinates around. While you're at it, I'd recommend adding quotes to all the attributes, so you end up with something like this:
    HTML Code:
    <map name="m">
        <area alt="Auctions" coords="106,76,300,110" href="http://...">
        <area alt="Chat" coords="170,76,340,110" href="http://...">
        <area alt="E-mail" coords="241,76,405,110" href="http://...">
        <area alt="Finance" coords="342,76,460,110" href="http://...">
        <area alt="Forums" coords="418,76,500,110" href="http://...">
    HTML Code:
    [font=Verdana][size=2]
        <area alt="calendar" coords="520,[/size][/font][font=Verdana][size=2]76[/size][/font][font=Verdana][size=2],550,110" href="http://...">
        </map>
        [/size][/font][font=Verdana][size=2]<img border="0" usemap="#m" src="http://..."
          alt="YourAutoPlace.com">[/size][/font][font=Verdana][size=2][/size][/font]

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    Hello,
    Thanks I will give it a try
    Thank you
    Adam

    Quote Originally Posted by blufive
    [note: something like this would probably be better in the Browser Issues forum]

    Netscape 4.8 seems to be freaked out by the order you put the co-ordinates in. The HTML 4 spec (http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/...ml#adef-coords) says: You have the co-ordinates in the order right-x, bottom-y, left-x, top-y (or, in at least one case, left-x, bottom-y, right-x, top-y)

    Other browsers seem to cope, but NN4.x gets confused.

    So: swap the co-ordinates around. While you're at it, I'd recommend adding quotes to all the attributes, so you end up with something like this:
    HTML Code:
    <map name="m">
        <area alt="Auctions" coords="106,76,300,110" href="http://...">
        <area alt="Chat" coords="170,76,340,110" href="http://...">
        <area alt="E-mail" coords="241,76,405,110" href="http://...">
        <area alt="Finance" coords="342,76,460,110" href="http://...">
        <area alt="Forums" coords="418,76,500,110" href="http://...">
    HTML Code:
    [font=Verdana][size=2]
        <area alt="calendar" coords="520,[/size][/font][font=Verdana][size=2]76[/size][/font][font=Verdana][size=2],550,110" href="http://...">
        </map>
        [/size][/font][font=Verdana][size=2]<img border="0" usemap="#m" src="http://..."
          alt="YourAutoPlace.com">[/size][/font][font=Verdana][size=2][/size][/font]
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    SitePoint Zealot feac's Avatar
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    Hello,
    Still not working with netscape

    Quote Originally Posted by blufive
    [note: something like this would probably be better in the Browser Issues forum]

    Netscape 4.8 seems to be freaked out by the order you put the co-ordinates in. The HTML 4 spec (http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/...ml#adef-coords) says: You have the co-ordinates in the order right-x, bottom-y, left-x, top-y (or, in at least one case, left-x, bottom-y, right-x, top-y)

    Other browsers seem to cope, but NN4.x gets confused.

    So: swap the co-ordinates around. While you're at it, I'd recommend adding quotes to all the attributes, so you end up with something like this:
    HTML Code:
    <map name="m">
        <area alt="Auctions" coords="106,76,300,110" href="http://...">
        <area alt="Chat" coords="170,76,340,110" href="http://...">
        <area alt="E-mail" coords="241,76,405,110" href="http://...">
        <area alt="Finance" coords="342,76,460,110" href="http://...">
        <area alt="Forums" coords="418,76,500,110" href="http://...">
    HTML Code:
    [font=Verdana][size=2]
        <area alt="calendar" coords="520,[/size][/font][font=Verdana][size=2]76[/size][/font][font=Verdana][size=2],550,110" href="http://...">
        </map>
        [/size][/font][font=Verdana][size=2]<img border="0" usemap="#m" src="http://..."
          alt="YourAutoPlace.com">[/size][/font][font=Verdana][size=2][/size][/font]
    http://www.CreativeCoveringSolutions.com
    - New England's source for tile and customized painting

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    feac, please do not cross-post.

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    SitePoint Zealot feac's Avatar
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    Sorry

    Quote Originally Posted by vgarcia
    feac, please do not cross-post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by feac
    Still not working with netscape
    First, can you confirm which version of netscape we're talking about here?

    Secondly, while you've added quotes to the attributes, you still have the co-ordinates in the wrong order. From my testing here in Netscape 4.8, the co-ordinate order is the main problem for that browser.

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    Hello,
    The version is 7.0
    What is the right order then?
    Thanks
    Adam

    Quote Originally Posted by blufive
    First, can you confirm which version of netscape we're talking about here?

    Secondly, while you've added quotes to the attributes, you still have the co-ordinates in the wrong order. From my testing here in Netscape 4.8, the co-ordinate order is the main problem for that browser.
    http://www.CreativeCoveringSolutions.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by feac
    What is the right order then?
    left-x,top-y,right-x,bottom-y if i'm not mistaken
    re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively
    [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.]
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    SitePoint Guru bronze trophy blufive's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by feac
    What is the right order then?
    left-x,top-y,right-x,bottom-y if i'm not mistaken
    Indeed, as I quoted from the spec in my first post...

    Quote Originally Posted by feac
    The [netscape] version is 7.0
    Hmm. Odd. Mozilla firebird works fine here, though there's been a fair few bugfixes since 7.0.

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    sorry blue, didn't see you had it in yours.

    anyway, reordering the coordinates does indeed work in Netscape 7.0 (just tested it)
    Code:
    <map name="m">
    <area href="http://abay.yourautoplace.com/" coords="106,76,300,110" alt="Auctions">
    <area href="http://chat.yourautoplace.com/" coords="170,76,340,110" alt="Chat">
    <area href="http://e-mail.yourautoplace.com/" coords="241,76,405,110" alt="E-mail">
    <area href="http://news.yourautoplace.com/finance/index.html" coords="342,76,460,110" alt="Finance">
    <area href="http://shop.yourautoplace.com/info/discounts.html" coords="418,76,500,110," alt="Forums">
    <area href="http://yourautoplace.zzn.com/email/english/noframes/preferences/calendar_prf.asp" coords="520,76,550,110" alt="calendar">
    </map>
    re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively
    [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.]
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    Hello,
    Thank you all, it WORKS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redux
    sorry blue, didn't see you had it in yours
    I was starting to wonder if I imagined it, with *everyone* not seeing it
    Quote Originally Posted by feac
    Thank you all, it WORKS
    Glad you got there in the end...


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